I hate glocks they are a piece of crap! Don't like the safety on the trigger for one thing. Very stupid thing to do. Your finger is your best safety. Don't like the way they shoot. I like Springfield's and Para pistol more. A lot better made firearm and both are more accurate than a glock. Have shot matches for years with the Springfield's and Para and STI pistols are my 3 favors.
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
You get what you pay for in a firearm, generally speaking....
Glock makes a decent, quality firearm for the price. I own a 21C. No mod's and factory sites. I can double tap head shots at 25 to 50 yards like a built in instinct... Would I take it to a match? Probably not. But I can honestly say that I have never had a single issue with mine, and it is my primary home defense firearm. I usually do better with a single stack 1911 type handgun when it comes to .45 acp, but I have really decent results with my 13 round 21C, even with the crappiest range ammo I can buy.....
Here's a thought, let's put a safety on the back of the gun's frame. That'll make it safer. Or perhaps where the thumb rests, since the trigger finger is the best safety. Hah hah hah. had to give you shit, fordvg. Glocks are not pieces of shit. Many people prefer 1911's or other weapons over the Glock, but it's not a piece of shit. A Glock is a far superior combat weapon than the 1911. The 1911 may be a great match gun, and I agree that 1911's tend to be more accurate as a whole than Glocks as a whole, but as far as practical accuracy goes, Glocks have all the accuracy you'll ever need. The competitive shooting world is falling to the Glock more and more thanks to the likes of Dave Sevigny and Jesse Abbate, so you can't say with any authority that the Glock is a piece of shit. There are things I don't like about it, the factory sights and the Glock skidmark I get, but the sights are easily replaced and the skimark is a nuisance during training at most. And abur, as far as having two nearly identical Forum Topics, you shouldn't do it, the mods here will delete your stuff, find your house, rape your goldfish and eat your dogs. True stuff, I've seen it happen.
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
when I woke up today my fish appeared to have been assulted, my house was egged, and it looks like a cougar attacked my dog. runawaygun762 was right holy crap. I learned my lesson...
what kinda dogs you have?i am hungry and the grill is hot!
"There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight, and that time has now come." --Peter Muhlenberg, from a Lutheran sermon read at Woodstock, Virginia, 1776
Hot Dogs. I have heard that dogs have scent glands that ae toxic to humans. I wish we had some Korean members who could tell us how to properly field dress and butcher a dog. I did see a cool Korean cook book one day, called "50 Ways to Wok Your Dog". hah, get it? "Wok" your dog? Get it? I hate me.
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
"There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight, and that time has now come." --Peter Muhlenberg, from a Lutheran sermon read at Woodstock, Virginia, 1776
I have a Vietnamese soldier in my detachment, I'll see if he can get me some recipes. His family eats dogs, but he thinks I'm nuts for wanting to grill up a piece of leg muscle from a person to see what human flesh tastes like. Some people. I almost had some on my second tour to Iraq, as we had to helpt the Iraqi Police clean up the roadway after a car bomb went off, but there was gasoline and other fluids all over the road from other cars in the blast site, so the meat was all tainted. I'da got away with a pieces of Iraqis, too. It was funny, my platoon leader found out that I wanted to try it and gave me a direct order not to eat any part of the local national personnel. Not many people can say they've gotten an order like that before. Maybe next tour.
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
"There is a time for all things, a time to preach and a time to pray, but those times have passed away. There is a time to fight, and that time has now come." --Peter Muhlenberg, from a Lutheran sermon read at Woodstock, Virginia, 1776
My local PD uses Glocls. Oneof the reasons is that the safety is on the trigger, which means one less thing to worry about when you are moving fast. They are als extremely reliable. The PD got them for $85.00 apiece. Having said all that, I don't think Glock is 'the best' at all. There are many fine brands of firearms out there. Claiming one is 'best' is kind of like bragging on a football team. Meh?
Those who do not read good books have no advantage over those who cannot read them -- Mark Twain
My department uses the Glock 22, it an ok gun but I prefer the 21 you can never go wrong with the good old .45acp. I actually havnt shot the Glock .357 or 10mm yet.
and Godzilla is ryo hero! ryo have over 30 Godzilla movies in collection. Godzilla is a "He". He is just all sexual ryo would guess would be right word cause can have live birth and can lay egg and seem to sometime just conjure little Godzilla out of thin air! Godzilla is a spirit that sometime punish Nihon when people have been bad and sometime is their champion when people have been good. His real name is Gohjira and no this does not mean, "big, scary monster". it is two nihongo word put together to make aglutinative word which mean something completely different from original two word. it is combination of word for gorilla and word for whale. let be kind to great heroic being of the island archepelago of nihon!
Your friend alway,
LittleDragon
PS not forget about meeting tonight at 8 pm central time! be there or be square d:-) <--- ryo in a baseball cap.
it's the ultra short model: 29? Anyway, the only thing that makes it acceptable is to use the kind of clip that has a pinkie grip built into it. Otherwise that thing is just too small. He uses hollow points and carries. He's serious. We're going to go down to Frontsight later this year.
Those who do not read good books have no advantage over those who cannot read them -- Mark Twain
I got my 1st Glock in 1989-G19, 2nd in 1990-G23(hot off the press and still have it. I've rebuilt it 4 or 5 times) I subsequently bought a G20 and a G31. Still have G20/23/31.With an assortment of barrels both ported and not. Obviously I like glock. I also like SIG a lot as well as other brands. However, I have never had to spend an additional dime to "make them work", right out of the box. My comment, don't knock the Glock, they work.
(You have to look behind all of that outer space stuff)
I have shot glocks and I don't like them at all. I will buy a Para,Springfield or a STI pistol instead. I like real pistols and not ones that look and feel like toys.
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
try a glock, it will surprise you. you probably never even handled one to even give it the "piece of crap" title.
that would be like me telling you that you are a "piece of crap" without even giving you a chance to prove to me that you are.
oh, by the way, i am an asshole and I am Proud of it, so do yourself a favor and get over yourself.
try a glock one day, go to your local indoor range, they have them to rent for about 12 dollars an hour.
Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
joey you need to go back to school and learn to read. I said, I have shot the piece of crap glocks and they SUCK besides being a PIECE OF CRAP! I like real pistols like STI,PARA,Springfields pistol and have shot these for years. I like a pistol to have some weight to it.
I have no local indoor range to go to I do all of my shooting at outdoor ranges or on friends land for long range shooting.
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
I have never found a Glock, at a gun store, indoor range or anywhere else that I would give two squirts of piss about. Springfield's blow Glock's out of the water.
that is like saying you are a piece of crap. ok, I am done with you. I like my glocks and you like your 1911's.
I don't pick on your choices. I just pick on people who think that they are god and feel that their opinion is the only one.
With that being said, I will now attempt to be like you, and tell you that YOU SUCK AND SO DO YOUR STI'S, PARAS AND SPRINGFIELDS.
And that pic about bearmeat SamD found is probably you.
Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
but i respect everybodys opinion here(cept bearmeat), to me glock is accurate, accurate enough to give me a lot of confidence when shooting it, it is also easy to clean and restore, and you can find parts and accesories for it anywhere for cheap.
Sniping your enemy is like hunting any other animal.
Well the Para, Springfield, Kimber are all excellant, they are what you show your friends. But, you show your enemies your GLOCK! sounds like "my Ford is better then your Chevy" argument, Hell sakes when it's real quite at nite, you can hear a Ford rust. GMC (Got a Mechanic Commin).
What ever you prefer is the best, I like the Glock, cause it's so damn easy to clean. Ugly, yes, looks like a damn 2x4, yes, ain't purdy like the Kimber, true, but the Glock is one hell'va weapon when the shit hits.
R. LEE, is not wrong. He's the GUNNY!!
Learn while your young kids.
The Gunny is wrong about the glock. But if I was getting the money he is from glock to say it is a good pistol I just might say that myself for the right price. Then take my money and go buy a real gun to use. By the way my Ford will out last any Chevy of GMC any day. Plus, my young days are long pasted.
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
Chill Lil Brother, remember the best gun or truck is the one you have. Example, "What is the best home defence weapon?" The one you grab first! Don't matter if its the shotgun or the Springfield, or the Glock. I have an 870 Police Magnum, rifle sights, extened magizine. Loaded with 00 Buck, then a slug, another 00 buck. and so on. maybe that is better. Then someone says "Remington Sucks". Cause they have a Mossburg. I have fired the Luger 08, cant hit shit with it. But my brother sweares by it. So my Glock is better than your high priced Springfield.
Just shitin ya. I got 2 Glocks, a Taurus and a Ruger. Havn't had any problems. no stove pipes, or jams.
Got the Ruger in 88, the Glocks in 96. Springfield is a damn fine peice, ask any ww2 vet. Or Nam Vet. if you can find one. (ww2)
is that I've been around all types of firearms for the past 20 years and I have no complaints with glock besides the looks and the factory sights (like runaway always says)
"Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
is that I've been around all types of firearms for the past 20 years and I have no complaints with glock besides the looks and the factory sights (like runaway always says)
Agree 100%!! I just put on night sights, deal with the ugly, and let them make noise!
"Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou Glock art with me; thy extra mags and thy ammo they comfort me."
A Glock is more durable than any 1911 out there and as reliable a gun as you'll ever find. Saying Springfield kicks the shit outta the Glock is an asinine comment. Assuming you're talking about the XD series, it is a Glock with a safety grip. It is more comfortable to shoot, but also bigger in a given size category, thus not as easy to conceal. It is one thing to say you prefer one type of gun over another, but to say a gun is a piece of shit because it's not the one you prefer shows a lack of intelligence or maybe just vocabulary. So perhaps a definition of "piece of shit" is in order. Is it defined as a gun which will last longer without needing replacement parts than guns priced three time higher? How abou a gun that has a minimum of external controls to allow a simplified manual of arms for high-stress environments? How about a gun that has been around for years now and has never been accused of being a great gun once it's been out of the custom shop? Or maybe it's a gun that has always had a well-deserved reputation of reliability? Well, if any of those cover the definition of the term "Piece of Shit", then I guess the Glock falls into that category. I love the Glock, I'm a diehard Glock fan, but I can still admit the few flaws it has and have done so.
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
The Springfield XD is one of the pistol that Springfield should not had made. Because it is to much like the glocks. Funny that you talk about reliable in a gun. The 1911 is as good as it was in 1911 and still going strong. When glock has been around for a hundred years then we can talk about how good it is if it last that long. The 1911 simplified manual of arms for high-stress environments is the gun I use and will still use. Like I said, joeybag and you can buy all of the glocks you guys want. Find by me.
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
is the one you don't have to fiddle with before you can fire. If you are saying, "Now, where is that damn safety?" then whatever gun it is, it's wrong for you. I'm not secretly promoting Glocks here. It's just that the gun you are most comfortable using efficiently is the best, no matter what the brand.
I have no problem with people having preferences, like Chevy over Ford or vice versa, but when it gets to be an emotional attachment, something is quite amiss.
Those who do not read good books have no advantage over those who cannot read them -- Mark Twain
Personal emotional attachments to attack a brand of gun is immature, stupid, lazy, improper, and most of all uneducated if it really works someone up as bad as fordvg was...
Wow, he takes his brands a little more to his heart, maybe even has some improper relationship with them?!?!
Whew, the implications and shit talk on here is nuts. But I must be a part of it.
Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
The 1911 has been around for almost a hundred years now and is still going strong. John Browning came up with a GREAT design that is as good now as it was in 1911. The 1911 is a KISS design which stands for "Keep it Simple Stupid". Something that you would not understand! I'm not worked up at all just stating facts. You and runawaygun can buy all the pieces of craps you want. I will take my hard earned money and buy real pistols that work great now just like in 1911. Have a nice day!
"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
Bottom Line...
Will they both shoot? Will they both save your ass? Definately, the only piece of shit gun out there is the one noone purchases.
agree or disagree, your choice.
... may be ugly and toyish, but it rocks my world
yours may be cool and stylish, but it rocks yours.
Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
the grip on the Glock was a little closer to 90 degrees, I would love one. They are very reliable. They are built like a Sherman tank. They will withstand the elements like no other and they maintain quite well, but it is that damned grip angle that gets me. I can't shoot it with any accuracy and every round fired puts me in line to get bitten by the slide. They are not pieces of shit by no means, but they ain't what I would be reaching for if the shit were to hit the fan. If I have to use a gun, I want the one that I would be most likely to hit what I am aiming at, and Glocks ain't it. If you like you some Glock, more power to ya. If you can shoot one well, again, more power to ya. You have got a great gun. It just ain't my thing. I will take the XD every time, or the PT-92. It is all a matter of what feels good to you. To me, the XD feels like an extension of my hand. The grip is at the perfect angle. It is great to be able to customize the grip strap for my hand. And I really dig the accessories that come with it.
As long as Glocks have that funky grip on them, I will not give a squirt of piss for one. But if you love them...carry on brother.
I agree that the XD is very comfortable, but do not agree with the closer to 90 degree line of thought. If you hold an imaginary gun out in front with your hand at a natural angle in reference to your arm, you'll find even the 1911 or Glock are too close to 90 degree. That is why, if you look at the competition bullseye pistols used by oympic shooters, you'll see a ridiculous angle. I also agree with the slide bite from the Glock, I call it the Glock skidmark. I have it on my hand and anyone with large hands or high grip will get bit every once in a while. The XD is much more comfortable, but much less concealable.
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
The whole video didn't play. I'm gonna have to go back and try to figure out what happened. Oh well. As for my shooting, thanks. I missed a few, but I wasn't going to keep reshooting until I got all hits. I hope I can fix it and repost. I really think if I can do a series of videos here, it'll help some of the members who may not be familiar with some of the different drills. I think my next one is going to be a demonstration of the different "CQB" target engagement methods like the double tap, hammer, controlled pair and nonstandard response. I'll probably do it with my M4. I really need to get a digital camcorder. That vid was done with my Canon A550 digital camera set on my car. DAMN IT, WHERE'S THE COPS CAMERA CREW WHEN YOU NEED THEM?!
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
Don't make me back this ass up!! I look like a pear. I have a huge ass and short legs. How did I ever get laid? Thank god for a good personality and extensive training in various chokeholds I guess
If you can't win their hearts and minds, then expose their hearts and minds to open oxygen. WHEN IN DOUBT, THIRTY OUT!!
I'm not going to say that they are pieces of shit, but I won't buy one. Yes Joey, I have shot several glocks and never met a glock I like. As for pistols, I'll take a 1911 over a glock anyday. If you want to limit it to poly frames, XD or XDM over glock. The ergomatics of the handle is off, the sights are crap, and the trigger of the glock is horrible. I have 3 1911's and true, not all of those triggers are perfect, but I can and do customize my triggers to my liking, it's an easy and inexpensive process. Can a glock owner say the same?
fordvg
I hate glocks they are a piece of crap! Don't like the safety on the trigger for one thing. Very stupid thing to do. Your finger is your best safety. Don't like the way they shoot. I like Springfield's and Para pistol more. A lot better made firearm and both are more accurate than a glock. Have shot matches for years with the Springfield's and Para and STI pistols are my 3 favors.
mytwoody
You get what you pay for in a firearm, generally speaking....
Glock makes a decent, quality firearm for the price. I own a 21C. No mod's and factory sites. I can double tap head shots at 25 to 50 yards like a built in instinct... Would I take it to a match? Probably not. But I can honestly say that I have never had a single issue with mine, and it is my primary home defense firearm. I usually do better with a single stack 1911 type handgun when it comes to .45 acp, but I have really decent results with my 13 round 21C, even with the crappiest range ammo I can buy.....
runawaygun762
Here's a thought, let's put a safety on the back of the gun's frame. That'll make it safer. Or perhaps where the thumb rests, since the trigger finger is the best safety. Hah hah hah. had to give you shit, fordvg. Glocks are not pieces of shit. Many people prefer 1911's or other weapons over the Glock, but it's not a piece of shit. A Glock is a far superior combat weapon than the 1911. The 1911 may be a great match gun, and I agree that 1911's tend to be more accurate as a whole than Glocks as a whole, but as far as practical accuracy goes, Glocks have all the accuracy you'll ever need. The competitive shooting world is falling to the Glock more and more thanks to the likes of Dave Sevigny and Jesse Abbate, so you can't say with any authority that the Glock is a piece of shit. There are things I don't like about it, the factory sights and the Glock skidmark I get, but the sights are easily replaced and the skimark is a nuisance during training at most. And abur, as far as having two nearly identical Forum Topics, you shouldn't do it, the mods here will delete your stuff, find your house, rape your goldfish and eat your dogs. True stuff, I've seen it happen.
abur
when I woke up today my fish appeared to have been assulted, my house was egged, and it looks like a cougar attacked my dog. runawaygun762 was right holy crap. I learned my lesson...
Reaper308
then then I hope you get the point. Tell you're goldfish they should be fine in 48-72 hrs, and the dog deserved it, he kept jizzing on my leg
catfish88
See Abur, I told you this was going to open up a can of worms. :)
greasypaws
what kinda dogs you have?i am hungry and the grill is hot!
abur
a bulldog and a shitzu, If you cook them together we could all have bullshit dogs! HA! Yeah I know thats an old one but its still funny.
runawaygun762
Hot Dogs. I have heard that dogs have scent glands that ae toxic to humans. I wish we had some Korean members who could tell us how to properly field dress and butcher a dog. I did see a cool Korean cook book one day, called "50 Ways to Wok Your Dog". hah, get it? "Wok" your dog? Get it? I hate me.
greasypaws
you find a book on BBQing dogs you let me know!K
runawaygun762
I have a Vietnamese soldier in my detachment, I'll see if he can get me some recipes. His family eats dogs, but he thinks I'm nuts for wanting to grill up a piece of leg muscle from a person to see what human flesh tastes like. Some people. I almost had some on my second tour to Iraq, as we had to helpt the Iraqi Police clean up the roadway after a car bomb went off, but there was gasoline and other fluids all over the road from other cars in the blast site, so the meat was all tainted. I'da got away with a pieces of Iraqis, too. It was funny, my platoon leader found out that I wanted to try it and gave me a direct order not to eat any part of the local national personnel. Not many people can say they've gotten an order like that before. Maybe next tour.
greasypaws
BBQ is the way!
Schuyler
My local PD uses Glocls. Oneof the reasons is that the safety is on the trigger, which means one less thing to worry about when you are moving fast. They are als extremely reliable. The PD got them for $85.00 apiece. Having said all that, I don't think Glock is 'the best' at all. There are many fine brands of firearms out there. Claiming one is 'best' is kind of like bragging on a football team. Meh?
abur
My department uses the Glock 22, it an ok gun but I prefer the 21 you can never go wrong with the good old .45acp. I actually havnt shot the Glock .357 or 10mm yet.
Ironkoji
As in I don't know them about pistols.
Koji
runawaygun762
You may not know anything about pistols, but do you know how to clean a dog before wok-ing it so the meat isn't tainted? We need some help here.
ebear
how long was Godzilla's vagina...im guessing 10 feet long and mabey 20- 25 feet deep
GLOCKSTER
God ebear talk about random, and your guesses might be right if godzilla was female
ebear
is a bitch.....first there was son of Godzilla, and in the newer version she laid eggs.
LittleDragon
and Godzilla is ryo hero! ryo have over 30 Godzilla movies in collection. Godzilla is a "He". He is just all sexual ryo would guess would be right word cause can have live birth and can lay egg and seem to sometime just conjure little Godzilla out of thin air! Godzilla is a spirit that sometime punish Nihon when people have been bad and sometime is their champion when people have been good. His real name is Gohjira and no this does not mean, "big, scary monster". it is two nihongo word put together to make aglutinative word which mean something completely different from original two word. it is combination of word for gorilla and word for whale. let be kind to great heroic being of the island archepelago of nihon!
Your friend alway,
LittleDragon
PS not forget about meeting tonight at 8 pm central time! be there or be square d:-) <--- ryo in a baseball cap.
Schuyler
it's the ultra short model: 29? Anyway, the only thing that makes it acceptable is to use the kind of clip that has a pinkie grip built into it. Otherwise that thing is just too small. He uses hollow points and carries. He's serious. We're going to go down to Frontsight later this year.
charley9toe
I got my 1st Glock in 1989-G19, 2nd in 1990-G23(hot off the press and still have it. I've rebuilt it 4 or 5 times) I subsequently bought a G20 and a G31. Still have G20/23/31.With an assortment of barrels both ported and not. Obviously I like glock. I also like SIG a lot as well as other brands. However, I have never had to spend an additional dime to "make them work", right out of the box. My comment, don't knock the Glock, they work.
raffycanlas
glocks are so easy to shoot though, and accurate of the box.
fordvg
I have shot glocks and I don't like them at all. I will buy a Para,Springfield or a STI pistol instead. I like real pistols and not ones that look and feel like toys.
joeybaggadonuts
try a glock, it will surprise you. you probably never even handled one to even give it the "piece of crap" title.
that would be like me telling you that you are a "piece of crap" without even giving you a chance to prove to me that you are.
oh, by the way, i am an asshole and I am Proud of it, so do yourself a favor and get over yourself.
try a glock one day, go to your local indoor range, they have them to rent for about 12 dollars an hour.
fordvg
joey you need to go back to school and learn to read. I said, I have shot the piece of crap glocks and they SUCK besides being a PIECE OF CRAP! I like real pistols like STI,PARA,Springfields pistol and have shot these for years. I like a pistol to have some weight to it.
I have no local indoor range to go to I do all of my shooting at outdoor ranges or on friends land for long range shooting.
BluesHarp
I have never found a Glock, at a gun store, indoor range or anywhere else that I would give two squirts of piss about. Springfield's blow Glock's out of the water.
joeybaggadonuts
that is like saying you are a piece of crap. ok, I am done with you. I like my glocks and you like your 1911's.
I don't pick on your choices. I just pick on people who think that they are god and feel that their opinion is the only one.
With that being said, I will now attempt to be like you, and tell you that YOU SUCK AND SO DO YOUR STI'S, PARAS AND SPRINGFIELDS.
And that pic about bearmeat SamD found is probably you.
raffycanlas
but i respect everybodys opinion here(cept bearmeat), to me glock is accurate, accurate enough to give me a lot of confidence when shooting it, it is also easy to clean and restore, and you can find parts and accesories for it anywhere for cheap.
Lyle Hutychins
Well the Para, Springfield, Kimber are all excellant, they are what you show your friends. But, you show your enemies your GLOCK! sounds like "my Ford is better then your Chevy" argument, Hell sakes when it's real quite at nite, you can hear a Ford rust. GMC (Got a Mechanic Commin).
What ever you prefer is the best, I like the Glock, cause it's so damn easy to clean. Ugly, yes, looks like a damn 2x4, yes, ain't purdy like the Kimber, true, but the Glock is one hell'va weapon when the shit hits.
R. LEE, is not wrong. He's the GUNNY!!
Learn while your young kids.
cherokee65
fordvg
The Gunny is wrong about the glock. But if I was getting the money he is from glock to say it is a good pistol I just might say that myself for the right price. Then take my money and go buy a real gun to use. By the way my Ford will out last any Chevy of GMC any day. Plus, my young days are long pasted.
Lyle Hutychins
Chill Lil Brother, remember the best gun or truck is the one you have. Example, "What is the best home defence weapon?" The one you grab first! Don't matter if its the shotgun or the Springfield, or the Glock. I have an 870 Police Magnum, rifle sights, extened magizine. Loaded with 00 Buck, then a slug, another 00 buck. and so on. maybe that is better. Then someone says "Remington Sucks". Cause they have a Mossburg. I have fired the Luger 08, cant hit shit with it. But my brother sweares by it. So my Glock is better than your high priced Springfield.
Just shitin ya. I got 2 Glocks, a Taurus and a Ruger. Havn't had any problems. no stove pipes, or jams.
Got the Ruger in 88, the Glocks in 96. Springfield is a damn fine peice, ask any ww2 vet. Or Nam Vet. if you can find one. (ww2)
cherokee65
time to get to bed.
Reaper308
is that I've been around all types of firearms for the past 20 years and I have no complaints with glock besides the looks and the factory sights (like runaway always says)
Shakleford
Agree 100%!! I just put on night sights, deal with the ugly, and let them make noise!
runawaygun762
A Glock is more durable than any 1911 out there and as reliable a gun as you'll ever find. Saying Springfield kicks the shit outta the Glock is an asinine comment. Assuming you're talking about the XD series, it is a Glock with a safety grip. It is more comfortable to shoot, but also bigger in a given size category, thus not as easy to conceal. It is one thing to say you prefer one type of gun over another, but to say a gun is a piece of shit because it's not the one you prefer shows a lack of intelligence or maybe just vocabulary. So perhaps a definition of "piece of shit" is in order. Is it defined as a gun which will last longer without needing replacement parts than guns priced three time higher? How abou a gun that has a minimum of external controls to allow a simplified manual of arms for high-stress environments? How about a gun that has been around for years now and has never been accused of being a great gun once it's been out of the custom shop? Or maybe it's a gun that has always had a well-deserved reputation of reliability? Well, if any of those cover the definition of the term "Piece of Shit", then I guess the Glock falls into that category. I love the Glock, I'm a diehard Glock fan, but I can still admit the few flaws it has and have done so.
joeybaggadonuts
Well put, Glock friend.
fordvg
The Springfield XD is one of the pistol that Springfield should not had made. Because it is to much like the glocks. Funny that you talk about reliable in a gun. The 1911 is as good as it was in 1911 and still going strong. When glock has been around for a hundred years then we can talk about how good it is if it last that long. The 1911 simplified manual of arms for high-stress environments is the gun I use and will still use. Like I said, joeybag and you can buy all of the glocks you guys want. Find by me.
Reaper308
Springfield doesn't make the XD, its manufactured by HS Produkt in Croatia
Schuyler
is the one you don't have to fiddle with before you can fire. If you are saying, "Now, where is that damn safety?" then whatever gun it is, it's wrong for you. I'm not secretly promoting Glocks here. It's just that the gun you are most comfortable using efficiently is the best, no matter what the brand.
I have no problem with people having preferences, like Chevy over Ford or vice versa, but when it gets to be an emotional attachment, something is quite amiss.
joeybaggadonuts
Personal emotional attachments to attack a brand of gun is immature, stupid, lazy, improper, and most of all uneducated if it really works someone up as bad as fordvg was...
Wow, he takes his brands a little more to his heart, maybe even has some improper relationship with them?!?!
Whew, the implications and shit talk on here is nuts. But I must be a part of it.
fordvg
The 1911 has been around for almost a hundred years now and is still going strong. John Browning came up with a GREAT design that is as good now as it was in 1911. The 1911 is a KISS design which stands for "Keep it Simple Stupid". Something that you would not understand! I'm not worked up at all just stating facts. You and runawaygun can buy all the pieces of craps you want. I will take my hard earned money and buy real pistols that work great now just like in 1911. Have a nice day!
joeybaggadonuts
Bottom Line...
Will they both shoot? Will they both save your ass? Definately, the only piece of shit gun out there is the one noone purchases.
agree or disagree, your choice.
... may be ugly and toyish, but it rocks my world
yours may be cool and stylish, but it rocks yours.
BluesHarp
the grip on the Glock was a little closer to 90 degrees, I would love one. They are very reliable. They are built like a Sherman tank. They will withstand the elements like no other and they maintain quite well, but it is that damned grip angle that gets me. I can't shoot it with any accuracy and every round fired puts me in line to get bitten by the slide. They are not pieces of shit by no means, but they ain't what I would be reaching for if the shit were to hit the fan. If I have to use a gun, I want the one that I would be most likely to hit what I am aiming at, and Glocks ain't it. If you like you some Glock, more power to ya. If you can shoot one well, again, more power to ya. You have got a great gun. It just ain't my thing. I will take the XD every time, or the PT-92. It is all a matter of what feels good to you. To me, the XD feels like an extension of my hand. The grip is at the perfect angle. It is great to be able to customize the grip strap for my hand. And I really dig the accessories that come with it.
As long as Glocks have that funky grip on them, I will not give a squirt of piss for one. But if you love them...carry on brother.
runawaygun762
I agree that the XD is very comfortable, but do not agree with the closer to 90 degree line of thought. If you hold an imaginary gun out in front with your hand at a natural angle in reference to your arm, you'll find even the 1911 or Glock are too close to 90 degree. That is why, if you look at the competition bullseye pistols used by oympic shooters, you'll see a ridiculous angle. I also agree with the slide bite from the Glock, I call it the Glock skidmark. I have it on my hand and anyone with large hands or high grip will get bit every once in a while. The XD is much more comfortable, but much less concealable.
ebear
hey i know i made fun of your video, but you do walk it like you talk it....it was pretty god video, and you are a good shot
runawaygun762
The whole video didn't play. I'm gonna have to go back and try to figure out what happened. Oh well. As for my shooting, thanks. I missed a few, but I wasn't going to keep reshooting until I got all hits. I hope I can fix it and repost. I really think if I can do a series of videos here, it'll help some of the members who may not be familiar with some of the different drills. I think my next one is going to be a demonstration of the different "CQB" target engagement methods like the double tap, hammer, controlled pair and nonstandard response. I'll probably do it with my M4. I really need to get a digital camcorder. That vid was done with my Canon A550 digital camera set on my car. DAMN IT, WHERE'S THE COPS CAMERA CREW WHEN YOU NEED THEM?!
ebear
you would teach us novices allot about profetional shooting.....but you do have a big ass!!!!lol
runawaygun762
Don't make me back this ass up!! I look like a pear. I have a huge ass and short legs. How did I ever get laid? Thank god for a good personality and extensive training in various chokeholds I guess
ebear
i use a brick myself....lolwell my hay is ready gonna sack out now....g/n
ronin1604
I'm not going to say that they are pieces of shit, but I won't buy one. Yes Joey, I have shot several glocks and never met a glock I like. As for pistols, I'll take a 1911 over a glock anyday. If you want to limit it to poly frames, XD or XDM over glock. The ergomatics of the handle is off, the sights are crap, and the trigger of the glock is horrible. I have 3 1911's and true, not all of those triggers are perfect, but I can and do customize my triggers to my liking, it's an easy and inexpensive process. Can a glock owner say the same?