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dystubenrauch  |
my dad is get a 9mm one of these day's and he likes the glocks and s&w. i would like him to get the usp H&K in a 9mm wich do think is the best deal? remeber he dose not have a whole lot of money ether. suport our troops where ever thay are!
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ssdd71
My vote would be the Glock all things considered. Price, reliablity, shootablity, and just plain good value. The Glock 17 and 19 are very good choices. There are good things to say about the others you mentioned, so they are also good considerations. Try them out and chose the one he shoots the best...
Snake
They come in a variety of calibers from a 9mm to a .45. The one that you want is a 9mm. Here try this link
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_&_Koch_USP#USP_Tactical
clintlebo
I agree with Snake on this. I recently purchased a Glock because of all the messianic stories I heard about the weapon. I still carry it as it is the tool that fits the requirement. But I prefer my HK over the glock and my WWI Colt over all else.
I have a problem with the stories about how indestructible Glocks are, and then you have caveats to these claims. It is recommended that you only fire factory ammo, never use lead, use only ball ammo, etc. I have had no problems, nor these "outrageous" caveats on any other weapon. But the Glock functions fine when following the above caveats.
I concur with ssdd71 that you should go to a range and rent each weapon. Fire them on their own accord and choose what works best for you.
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Snake
Vote for the USP.
sytasyn_syn
S&W M627
sytasyn_syn
Hey Snake, is your fridge running?
Snake
you have to get up pretty early to fool me with that one. hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
sytasyn_syn
You got me Snake, you got me
Reaper308
if he can spare the extra $300, I say go with the HK or a Sig. If not, there is nothing wrong with a glock. very reliable.
ebear
sometimes you can find a good used one for cheaps
Andrew530
Why not consider an XD
DEMO
How are those. I saw an XD, it looked sweet. Came with accessories. How does it compare with a glock?
Reaper308
xd's are good. they are both good quality, it just comes down to preference (feel and what you shoot the tightest groups with)
dystubenrauch
he all ready has a springfield m1911a1
sytasyn_syn
The XD is in my opinion, is just above the Glock on my "want list" because I love the way it looks, but I like them both. For most the Glock is a better guy because they are both great quality and come in a variety of different calibers. Still, the Glock comes in allot more variations within those calibers. You have the option of two compensated Glocks for lesser recoil, Compact and sub compact versions of almost all the calibers. Not to mentions the Glocks are also an easier weapon to find barrel conversions for. So you can have one pistol with an easy to change barrel and many options depending on what caliber you want to carry. However, it really comes down to which on feels better and sights better for you, which one feels more natural.
LLE
I shot them both. The proof of the pudding is I own an XD40. I consider the ergonomics and general human factors of the XD superior to the Glock. But I recognize your, and other peoples', hands and arms are not the same configuration as mine.
I am not interested in barrel conversions, and if I want to supress recoil, I'll get some work done on mine.
So--you pays your money and takes your choice.
Andrew530
the xd also offers conversions barrels, http://www.barsto.com/category_main.cfm?ID=XD&cco=63 ported or " compensated" models, with tactical, compact and sub compact aswell. Along with more safty features i think
guarino11207
i think the glock would be a good choice i love glock nice guns
godsgift215
GLOCKS ALL DAY. THEY ARE THE BEST WEAPONS OUT THERE
fordvg
they are a piece of crap. You can buy a Firestar in 9mm for about $300 to $350 great little carry piece. Glocks are bad about having feeding problems.
samD
I resemble that Glock remark. I love my Glock and am buying more. Very accurate, reliable, durable and safe. My Glock 19 feeds everything I throw at it...
clintlebo
SamD,
I had a problem with my Glock that it would not feed semi wad cutters.
My biggest problem with Glock is perception. THey are made out to be the end all be all of the pistol market, I agree that they are an engineering masterpiece, but I would favor my 100 year old Colt .45. It has eaten everything from realods with factory bullets to casted lead wad and semi wad cutter bullets.
clint
fordvg
You can buy all the Glock's you want, that is find with me. I don't like them and I will buy pistols that I do like. That is the great thing about living in the USA. So, the same thing goes with buying cars or trucks, that is how we keep companies in business.
samD
trying to make it personal. I stated my opinion and you yours. I like Glock and you don't. So long as we both have what we like, then the world goes around. I certainely can't push my will on you and vice-versa. Not trying to do that. Sorry if you felt that way.
sytasyn_syn
Wow SamD, I'm proud of you...Come here and get your good star to put under the "plays well with others" section on your progress report.
samD
I have not tried reloads , as yet. But Russian, Blazer and most all American (In name anyway) Ammo.
clintlebo
I think it was Reaper308 that told me not to use reloads with a Glock as it will void the warranty. So much for an engineering masterpiece...
clint
Reaper308
I only shoot factory loaded ammo. I have fired 20,000 + rounds through glocks and have yet to have a misfire/feed problem/stovepipe etc... I would bet my life on mine anyday.
Snake
Anymore Votes?
Hunter59
I dont like the feel of the Glock's or S&W's at all, though I have never shot any of these. So I guess that is another vote for the USP. What about Heckler & Koch's H&K 45? Any info on that one?
fordvg
My wife was going to school for the police out in LA county and they used the Glocks for a short time. She said, they had trouble with all of them, they were getting rid of them because the pistol jamed every third round, all of the guns they had. They where to Smith & Wesson for they pistol after that. I know the cops up home in Indiana use the Smith & Wesson.
Snake
thats 2 besids mine(My Vote Dosent Count)
Reaper308
my vote goes to Sigs, Hk's, Glocks, XD's what ever. they are all good guns. depends on your budget and preference.
fordvg- I have never heard of glocks jamming every third round in my life. they are made to shoot dry and even when they're really dirty. they are really low maintence. Like I said above I've put over 20,000 rounds through glocks without ONE problem. I do agree that they're ugly... but they're damn reliable.
Crusading Knight
The Springfield XD 9mm V-10. Thank you Thank you..........
Snake
Going to the gun range and shooting a H&K USP(With Suppressor). Any one Reccomend a Spcific Glock to test While im there.
Crusading Knight
Why go for burgers when you have steak? Snake I bet you have a very serious collection.
reysanz630
i think you going to like the glock 18......lol but try a sig 556 is fucking fun to shoot.....if they have one