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5 years 13 weeks ago, 9:21 AM

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OK- I am looking at the ft/sec of my 45 colt which heats up to 1200 ft/sec. This is advertised as a deer round.
Now the 9mm round +p is also at 1160 ft/sec
Now the 45 ACP is also at 1150 ft/sec.
My question is why do I need a hunting load that performs the same as a +p 9mm/45/44 mag?
What is the difference between the 9mm JHP and 45 colt/44 MAG if they have the same ft/sec?

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 10:21 AM

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I think 700foot pounds energy is the minimum in most states. Can't find the algorithym to compute that.Check this web site gunsandammomag.com/cs/Satellite?c=Chart_C&childpagename=IMO_GA/Layout&cid=99&pagename=IMO/

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 10:59 AM

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DEMO, Here is the Algorithm to compute energy. Bullet weight in grains X feet per second 2 X 0.000002218 = foot pounds energy. That will get you in the BallPark.

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 11:21 AM

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DEMO wrote:
What is the difference between the 9mm JHP and 45 colt/44 MAG if they have the same ft/sec?

the difference would be bullet weight, which if its traveling at the same velocity, the heavier round will deliver more energy at impact, and create a larger wound channel because if the bullet size.

A lot of the hunting bullets use talons (like barnes X) VS. mushrooms (like a traditional JHP) to penetrate thick hides and cause more internal damage. For .45LC, look at corbon's hunter ammo. Its good stuff. For other rounds like 9mm and .45ACP, I would make sure to get +P or +P+ to reach the velocities you want (unless you're loading them) and get some sort of talon like Corbon DPX, Federal HST, or Winchester SXT. I don't have any handgun hunting experience, so I can't personally tell you the effectiveness of those rounds on a deer.

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5 years 13 weeks ago, 5:40 PM

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Demo my father-inlaw and I hunted deer with his .44 mag with great success. He shot a large doe at right around 70 yards and I took a buck at 50 yards. Both deer dropped right where they stood. He had the Virgian Drugoon with a 8" barrel I want to say that we were hitting about 1250-1350 fps., I would have to look at my reloading info to be sure, but those numbers are coming to mind. If you would like I could do up some numbers for with my different reloading manuals and PM you the info.
I personally would not hunt a deer with a 9MM if I did not have to. I like to hunt with a gun with a bit more poop behind it.

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