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6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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I'm new here, so first off Hello All!!

Trying to help my father figure out an old rifle he has...here's what I do know (I'm doing this from a distance so it makes it harder to not have the gun in my hands to look at)

303 British and it's apparently missing the bolt and doesn't have the guts the magazine or it's missing the clip...not sure.
He wants to get it shootable so I started looking for the missing parts...found a bolt no problem, but now he tells me he thinks it had a floor plate and spring with the magazine instead of a clip?? I know nothing about these guns, but all the ones I've seen pics of have a clip magazine??

Here are the markings he has found on the gun:

On the band by the trigger guard:
A small pic of a crown??
GR
1918
SHT L.E

III*

I think I've found that the SHT L.E is "Shortened something and Lee Enfield???

Any thoughts on these markings?

There are some other markings near the chanmber as well:
W
England with some numbers stamped over the "England"

ANy help you can give me on this would be great in identifying the actual rifle so I can find the proper parts. Thanks and I really like the site so far!!

6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:39 AM

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TFred

First and foremost Welcome to Gunslot.
I my self know little about the .303 Enfield, but there are people on here that do. So hold tight and someone will get the answer.
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6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:40 AM

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Do you know anything abot the .303 Enfields? Maybe you can help TFred.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 11:45 AM

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Thanks samD! I will patiently wait for more info just want to get an idea for him before he loses interest in getting the parts. I know someone on here will have the info I need so it's no big hurry! I see you are a few dozen clicks N of Old Mexico...this time of year it reminds me of the archery hunting (deer and Javi's) I use to do down there in good old AZ for a few years...I miss chasing them things around the desert! Thanks again!

6 years 2 weeks ago, 12:46 PM

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TFred

if it is...

SMLE MK III (short magazine lee enfield)? the year 1918 is right for a SMLE MK III. it should have a detachable magazine... if its missing, Im sure you could find one fairly easily

you are saying it is...

the SHTLE which is a single shot british training rifle. it was an SMLE No. 1 Mk.III which was usually converted to .22LR. they left the original SMLE magazine on the rifle to catch the spend .22LR casings. I would definately double check the caliber. It may still be marked as ".303" but may have been converted to .22LR. If this is the case, you will need the original mag (if you want to catch the spent brass)

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
6 years 2 weeks ago, 12:49 PM

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Thanks Reaper

That is some interesting stuff taht you have floating around in that brain of yours.
Did you read the question from Jane re: air rifle and subsequent posts?
I think that basic zip gun recipe should be removed. What do you think?
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6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:24 PM

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I don't care much either way. It should probably be removed to avoid the heat. I would bring it to marv and quins attention and they can have the final say.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:38 PM

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Reaper Thanks

I sent a message to Quint, but he is so slow about answering. If you can delete it. Just do it, we'll deal with it later. samD

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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I can only delete comments.... not articles and videos. Quin will have to do it

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
6 years 2 weeks ago, 1:34 PM

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TFred

Sounds Like a Lee Enfeild

Here is what I know
.303 cal
Used in WWII
Made Sniper Varients.
Possibly used two 5 round stripper clips

Here is a link to Information

http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/main.htm

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:26 PM

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check out this link.... thanks to snaker
http://enfieldrifles.profusehost.net/sc.htm

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:44 PM

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Great Info

Thanks for the info everyone...the link you guys provided to that site...Wow...some very good and interesting info there! Looking at the markings photos on that site I do have some of the stuff narrowed down:
The crown with the GR should mean either a British proof mark or possibly it was from Ishapore Inspection, India.
The 1918...I think we all know what that means.
The SHT LE is short Lee Enfield.
The III* still working on this for sure. It's a number three I'm assuming but I found where that could mean it was SMLE...does that contradict the SHT LE??

Anyway, thanks again for the info so far...I'm still looking at it all!!

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:41 PM

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post a pic of the rifle if you can, it would help to identify it

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:11 PM

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Wish I could put a pic on but I don't have it in my possession. I do know for sure without a doubt that it is in .303 caliber though...I called him and had him make sure. So it wasn't converted to .22LR for training purposes. He also said that there is a hinge on the bottom of the magazine like there should be a floor plate there? Does this give any clues at all? Were some of these rifles converted over to detachable magazines? Thanks again...I feel like I'm gettting somewhere with this!!

6 years 2 weeks ago, 3:02 PM

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Tfred

Your welcome. Post a pic and let us help restore the pride of the british military.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:17 PM

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Tfred

Just look at the website and all shall be told.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:21 PM

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does it look anything like this???? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RFI_Rifle_7.62mm_2A1.JPG

We're not going to just shoot the sons-of-bitches, we're going to rip out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. Gen. George S. Patton
6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:23 PM

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The Enfiled is supposed to have a floor plate.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:27 PM

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enfield

the P14 and the P17 have floor plates the Short magazine Lee Enfields have a removable magazine!

6 years 2 weeks ago, 4:25 PM

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your gun

is a Short Magazine Lee Enfield,sounds like a mark 3(III)number 1

6 years 2 weeks ago, 5:15 PM

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i know nothing

about the 303 except they make a heck of a hole!! but welcome to the site!

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