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5 years 6 weeks ago, 10:07 PM

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My father recently passed, found an old shotgun under his bed.Having alot of trouble finding anyone that can help me.Looks to be a 12 guage has a squirrel on the butt,on the barrel:Cranberry C.M.McClu.... the rest of the name is worn off,then Knoxville,has a serial of 242750.Can someone please help me.

5 years 6 weeks ago, 10:53 PM

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Hey babygirl

It would help if you could posta few pics of the gun. Overall and some closeups. Someone on here will know.
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5 years 6 weeks ago, 11:01 PM

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Was hoping someone would respond, thanx so much will get them on soon.

5 years 6 weeks ago, 11:24 PM

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babygirl, I have no idea, but I'm very interested to hear about this. I live near Knoxville and didn't know of any guns made or imported through here. Somebody will come along and know all about it and I can't wait to hear about it.

5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:17 AM

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babygirl

it has to be at least made on or after 1968,when guns were required to have serial numbers.i would be almost willing to bet that it was a hardware store or sears or monty wards gun from back in the day.post a pic and let us see!

5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:19 AM

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babygirl

post a pic of yourself so's we can see what we are callin' babygirl!never know,might scare a fella!

5 years 6 weeks ago, 8:18 AM

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lets talk business first,I dont want you tryin to hit on me until i get what i need from you! lol doubt you will be scared

5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:29 AM

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the cranberry 12 gauge was sold by CM McClung Co, out of knoxville. It was a hardware store. They also sold guns out of a catalog. I don't know who the actual manufacturer is... only that CM McClung was the distributer.

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:33 AM

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i called it!

hardware store gun!

5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:41 AM

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this is what I found....

CHEROKEE ARMS CO. Tradename used by C. M. McClung & Company of Knoxville, Tennessee on shotguns made by Crescent Firearms Company.

A little History:

CRESCENT FIRE ARMS CO. was incorporated in Connecticut on March 4, 1892. In 1888, George W. Cilley bought out the defunct Bacon Arms Co. of Norwich, CT. He then formed an alliance with Frank A. Foster, and borrowed enough money to form Crescent. Cilley and Foster each held several firearms patents, and both were highly qualified in firearms design and manufacture. Production began with single shot tip-up shotguns that had an external side hammer. Double barrel shotgun production was started in 1891. In 1893, the majority of Crescent stock was acquired by H.∓D. FOLSOM located at 314 Broadway in New York City. Henry Titus Folsom (1859-1937) was President of the company, and was succeeded by his son, H. Lloyd (1888-1954), who led the company through the depression and World War II. H.∓D. Folsom distributed Birmingham and Belgian made firearms (including some marked W. Richards and T. Barker) under many trade names from 1890 until about 1932. The Norwich, CT manufactured Crescent guns were marked American Gun Company of New York, then Crescent after about 1922. In 1897, American Gun Co. listed 5 models: 1. #2641 - Top lever hammergun with Armory Steel barrels (Belgain made) in 12g only for $14. 2. #2650 - With damascus barrels for $15. 3. #2660 - Similar gun but claimed to be all American made for $18. 4. #2655 - Twist barrels and Deeley & Edge snap forend with engraving on locks and trigger guard for $18. 5. #2665 - Greater engraving coverage for $20. In 1954 Folsom was purchased by Universal Tackle and Sporting Goods Co. N.R. DAVIS ARMS COMPANY was located in Assonet, MA from 1853 until at least 1917, operated under the following names: 1853 to 1883‑ N.R. Davis Arms 1883 to 1917‑ N.R. Davis & Sons Co. 1917 to 1930‑ Davis-Warner Arms Corp.‑ Brooklyn, NY and Norwich, CT In 1920, SAVAGE ARMS CORP. purchased J. STEVENS ARMS and later acquired the assets of Page Lewis Company and A.H. Fox. J. Stevens purchased DAVIS-WARNER in 1930. A Stevens memo dated December 15, 1930 announced the purchase from H&D Folsom Arms Company of the assets of Crescent Fire Arms Company of Norwich, Connecticut. The assets of Crescent were to be merged with those of Davis-Warner Arms Corporation and that the newly formed firm would be known as The Crescent-Davis Arms Corporation, Norwich, Conn. On November 4, 1935, an order of dissolution was filed with the New York Secretary of State and the remains were moved to Chicopee Falls and assembled and sold under various trade names. RESOURCE: Bob Hinman "The Golden Age of Shotgunning"

TRADE NAMES (confirmed or possible) used by Folsom imported guns (mostly Belgian sidlocks and identified by proof marks), Crescent (sidelocks), and Crescent-Davis (boxlocks)

Cherokee Arms Co. for C.M. McClung & Co. (this was one of about 100 trade names listed, and the only one that I could find that was distributed by CM McClung)

http://proofhouse.com/cm/codes_markings.htm

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 6 weeks ago, 1:47 AM

Anonymous

nice work Reaper!

excellent research!hell,even i learned something here!

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