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5 years 47 weeks ago, 5:53 AM

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help me pick out a gun

I'm about to buy a hand gun and have been looking at a beretta 96 with a crimson trace laser on it for around $500.00 .for the price is there better guns ?help me pick one out .i'm wanting to spend about 500.00 and i like 9mm and.40 and i'm not a big fan of polymer guns just dont see how it could last as long as a solid steel peace i am open for suggestions so bring them on .

5 years 47 weeks ago, 7:26 AM

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won't be able to find a Beretta with Crimson trace grips for that price. Crimson trace are running 250.00 or more.
Check out Taurus and spend the savings on the grips.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 7:49 AM

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no i found one for 499.00 at a local pawn shop i'm just looking for experience advice before i purchase it or a other gun .

5 years 47 weeks ago, 7:52 AM

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Buy it

If you like it, buy it, the 96 is a good gun. and that price is a great deal with the grips. Is it in good shape?

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 7:58 AM

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yep

yeah no scrapes or rubbed off blueing. i plan on getting it today at lunch .its a lot of money for me wanted to make sure its a good choice.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:04 AM

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Let us know how you like it.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:08 AM

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go for it

Worth it as long as the gun looks clean and not too beaten up, they are good guns

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 9:39 AM

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you look into a certified pre-owned sig. sounds like the beretta is used anyway. the certified sigs are usually police/FBI turn ins, and sig inspects them and replaces warn parts. they come with a warrenty and you can usually find them around $500-$550. I got a p229 for $500 in excellent condition. They come in .40 as well. In my opinion, they arn't even in the same league as beretta when it comes to accuracy, reliability, and quality (meaning I much rather prefer sig). just my opinion.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 8:54 PM

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Do you know where? websites etc?
I just got my taxes done, and I'm gonna spend some!!

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:45 PM

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well i guess i'm still

well i guess i'm still looking for a gun the pawn shop sold the beretta 96 this morning before i had a chance to snatch it up.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:49 PM

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Oh well

Guess it wasn't meant to be

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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sorry to hear that

dont give up.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:27 AM

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s&w 411

does anyone know about a smith and wesson model 411. all i know is its a .40 with a 11 rd. clip but cant find any reviews about it.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:45 AM

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I own a Berretta 96G .40cal, and I have to say it is a great weapon. Its very accurite and very solid. I trusted my life to my 96 while working armored car. The only drawbacks I can say about the 96 compaired to polymer pistols is the weight, and its length makes it a little more uncomfortable to conceal. However the weight does help counter recoil. Be carefull with it in any desert/sandy areas, the open slide design will allow sand and dust to enter the slide through the top and directly to the slide rails, this could cause a jam.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 10:06 AM

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RUGER

Have you considered the ruger P series guns?
They are all metal Very tough and reliable! I have a p89 9mm that i have had for years and have shot every kind of ammo through it with absolutly no malfunctions!
Alao you can get them for under 500 most sell for about 400 around here and you could pick up a used one for about 300 or so.
Just to let you know the rugers come sighted in at 25 yards from the factory.

5 years 46 weeks ago, 1:26 PM

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Are you looking for the large frame type of handgun specifically?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 4:02 AM

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Polymer frame guns will last longer than you will. It is very hard to wear out any modern gun an unless someone tried some kitchen gunsmithing or a home torture test, most pawn shop guns will still have plenty of life left. I prefer used pistols as the savings over new allow more mags and ammo. Rifles are a different story, but that would be getting off topic and we never do that here. Don't be too quick to look past the "combat tupperware" guns.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 11:44 AM

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i need a large frame gun they just feel better in my big hand .i have'nt really looked at rugers much but i have been looking at a glock 17 and a springfield xd 40 that both seem to be good deals.

5 years 46 weeks ago, 11:47 AM

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both XD and glock are great guns... why is one a 9mm and the other a .40 though? first decide on the caliber, then go with the guns that feels best (i.e: do you like the grip safety on the XD?)

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 11:59 AM

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i'm not sure on the caliber i'v had a 9mm before and liked it but i keep finding some good .40's . the xd and the glock both feel good and i did'nt mind the grip safety at all it was'nt very noticeable not like a 1911.

5 years 46 weeks ago, 6:04 PM

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Oh yeah. I'd give my left nut to have a nice 1911. My friend has one and it's the best pistol I have ever shot.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 9:56 PM

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My thought, millerman

The xd feels great, and I actually thought about getting rid of my Glocks for a couple xds, but then I realized that the G19 has a shorter height than the xd subcompact. .40 is a great round, but the cost and snappy recoil is more than I prefer to deal with, especially with the great rounds available in 9mm

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 6:01 PM

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I have a Glock 17. First off I will say it's a awsome gun. Simple design very accurate, however given the choice I would trade it for an XD. The XD has a round chambered indicator and it has a safety, two things you have to add to a glock and the saftey needs to be done by a gunsmith.
I would never not consider a gun due to the use of polymer. It's lighter it's though as hell and I can't imagine it wearing out. In three weeks I have put 500 + rounds through my glock and it still looks like new. Thats my two wooden nickels for what it's worth :)..J

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 6:11 PM

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glock round indicator

actually your glock does have a round chambered indicator. see below.

http://www.glock.com/english/pistols_adv09.htm

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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Manual safeties and loaded round indicators are useless. Keep your finger off the trigger, and perform a chambered round verification after you lock and load. I don't like press checks due to the proximity of the finger and thumb to the muzzle, but retract the slide slightly and visually check to ensure there is a round chambered before holstering. The Glock is as good as anyone will ever need from the box with one exception. The factory sights are terrible and should be replaced with a good set of Trijicon three dot night sights that you should have purchased at the same time as the gun. Swap the sights and leave the rest alone.

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 10:24 AM

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Realy? Chamber a round in a Glock before you holster it? Screw that. Glocks lack saftey, anyone who says diffrent is not gun savy IMHO.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 11:12 PM

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A car with no gas

is about as useful as a gun with no bullets. If you are confronted by someone who wishes to do you harm are you going to say, "HOLD ON, I need to chamber a round first!"? Really?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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here are the rocks i'm

here are the rocks i'm banging my head between right now.
a glock model 17 with four clips for 500.00
or a xd .40 with six 12rd. clips, a fire dragon barrel/and the stock barrel a detatchable laser sight and close to 300 rds. of ammo for 600.00 .
i would like to buy them booth but my wallet will not allow it i'm working two jobs to save up for my toys rite now and i'm sure by the time i saved to get the second gun it would be gone .

5 years 46 weeks ago, 9:51 AM

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are they new? it sounds like they're both used. You can find a new glock for that price... even a little cheaper. As for the XD... why is there a fire dragon barrel? is it extended, threaded or ported?

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5 years 46 weeks ago, 6:38 PM

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f.n.p, 9mm

yes they are booth used .the xd barrel is ported and it is extended ,i havent found a new glock 17 but i did find a new xd 40 at bass pro for 550.00 nd i found a fnp 9mm new for 459.00 how are these i like the price .

5 years 45 weeks ago, 3:03 AM

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You have got to be kidding me. I have apparently found my next pissing contest. Anyone who holsters a pistol of any sort without it being in a ready condition is a moron. Revolvers have no manual safeties. Are you saying you shouldn't holster those? Sigs don't have them either. To say someone is not gun savy if they holster a locked and loaded gun is ridiculous. I say if you're afraid of it, buy something else or go find some of that professional instruction to teach you how to handle guns safely. It has nothing to do with a lack of manual safety.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 11:50 AM

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runawaygun762 wrote:
You have got to be kidding me. I have apparently found my next pissing contest. Anyone who holsters a pistol of any sort without it being in a ready condition is a moron. Revolvers have no manual safeties. Are you saying you shouldn't holster those? Sigs don't have them either. To say someone is not gun savy if they holster a locked and loaded gun is ridiculous. I say if you're afraid of it, buy something else or go find some of that professional instruction to teach you how to handle guns safely. It has nothing to do with a lack of manual safety.

Won't get a pissin contest out of me. Unless I am in a defence situation I would never holster my glock with a round chambered PERIOD. I can have the gun ready to fire just as fast if I pull the slide back as I raise the gun from the holster to target. You can get on your high horse and say whatever you like about gun saftey I have been an avid shooter since I was 7 years old and I know whats safe and whats not. Thats all I have to say about this matter.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 7:00 PM

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Seeking my first handgun... thinking 9 mm just because it would be cheaper for ammo to practice . CZ? SIG? GLOCK? really could use all the info I can get before I drop my first 1000.00 and regret it wishing I purchased something else. Help me make an informed decision??????? Thanks in advance

5 years 45 weeks ago, 7:06 PM

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if your willing to spend $1000 you can get anything you want some brands i would recomend are glock, sig, springfield, or kimber

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 7:32 PM

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comparisons??

when you recommend these brands ,, any details or concerns I might want to address regarding each???

5 years 45 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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on reliability glocks are at the top of the list, but if you don't want a polymer gun get a springfield or a kimber. like i said all 4 of these brands are the top of the line so there aren't many negative things to say

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I think sigs are top of the line (P220,P226 or P229), but they will cost around $800 new, $500+ used in good condition. If you don't like sigs, check out glock, XD, M&P and the sig p250 (they will be $500-$600). Go with what feels best in your hands. try to rent them and see what you can shoot the tightest groups with.

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5 years 45 weeks ago, 9:47 PM

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You can certainly find a good Kimber for a grand. All above pistols are great, but a Kimber comes "tricked out" from the factory so you don't have to spend a lot on srt kits and the like. In Tennessee
,, if you shoot with a factory Kimber, you are automatically in the modified class at shooting competitions

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You cannot draw, chamber, and fire as quickly and acurately as you can draw and fire. It is not physically possible. I would again like to point out revolvers. Are you saying revolvers are not safe? Just because you've been doing something since you were a kid doesn't mean you're proficient at it. I'm not on a "high horse" about this issue. Anyone who carries a defensive gun in anything other than a ready condition is not ready to defend themself. Surprise, gunnin. You don't get the luxury of advanced warning to let you know you're about to be in a "defense situation". If you did, simply avoid it or bring a rifle.

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5 years 44 weeks ago, 12:13 PM

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In my opinion Glock/Xd/HK over Beretta any day. I grew to dislike Beretta after serving in the military. Too long and bulky IMHO. I have put thousands of rounds through my glocks, Xd, and HK's and never had a problem. (HK is duty weapon) Berretta is a good weapon for the military as it is a rugged gun.

As far as a safety and keeping a round in the chamber. If you are buying the weapon for home defense then these are an important. But then again if your buying a weapon for home defense why wouldn't it be a 12 or 20 gauge pump shotgun? If you are buying a handgun for CCW then you should be a responsible and alert adult. If you need to carry a weapon for self defense, then you are feeling threatened in someway or have the probability of being in a dangerous situation at a blink of an eye. Why would you not want to keep a round in the chanber? Don't get me wrong, safety is very important. If you are gonna carry a gun in public, your training and situational awareness MUST be top notch. If your worried about accidently shooting yourself or others then you may not be ready or properly trained/experienced to carry concealed. No disrespect intended, just giving my honest and pretty experienced opoinion.

Oh yeah. I prefer 40 cal over 9mm. You can find used Glocks and Xd's for 475-550 still in great condition.

5 years 44 weeks ago, 9:56 PM

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hard decision

its hard to decide what kind of gun to get when you havent shot a lot .i like 9mm cause ammo is cheaper, not a big kick and plenty of power for what i need .i dont really need to carry a gun for self defense in general cause i'm 6'4" about 290lb and can scare someone enough to make them wet them selves with out a gun ,i just want to carry one because i think anyone that is'nt a criminal should be able to carry one wether cruisin on my bike or going to the store .i shot my friends glock 9mm today i think it was a model 26 (sub compact 9mm )it was pretty nice he had a extended clip so it did'nt seem so small .i've always wanted a beretta 92 so eventually i will have to get one just to have,if you know what i mean.i keep looking at fnp 9mm and i found a taurus 24-7 9mm that looked nice ,i have a problem buying something if i feel i'm not going to be totally satisfied, and i drag my feet and then someone else gets it,and then i kick my self in the ass .

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