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8 years 19 weeks ago, 6:23 PM


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Here's a kicker!

He says some semi-automatic weapons can be converted to full automatic, but only by someone with expertise.

"There are guns that are, apparently, easier to convert than others, but not without a good bit of knowledge," Wagnon explained. "I certainly have no idea who is out there doing that sort of thing."

International security analyst Fred Burton, who works for Stratfor (Strategic Forecasting) in Austin, says gun store purchases probably account for very few of the weapons used in Mexico crimes.

"If you think about the volume of weapons the narcos [narcotics traffickers] have in their possession any time there is a bust, what you see is an extraordinary number of automatic weapons of Chinese manufacture, Russian manufacture and you do see some weapons that have been stolen or purchased illegally here in the United States," Burton Mexican military cited as gun source

He says many of the U.S. guns in criminal hands come from the Mexican military, which has a high rate of desertion.

"You have soldiers defecting with not only issued military weapons, it could be issued ammunition, issued grenades," he said.

German Torres Jimenez, aka "Z-25", of 'Los Zetas' drug cartel, is presented to the press at Command Centre in Mexico City, 25 Apr 2009
Burton notes that one of the most fearsome drug gangs in Mexico, the so-called Zetas were members of an elite military unit that switched sides and have used their training and their weapons against their former comrades.

Many guns used by Mexican soldiers come from direct commercial sales by American companies, approved by the U.S. State Department, something Burton says should be examined more closely.

"I think that is going to be an issue as we look at some of the foreign aid initiatives into Mexico," Burton said, "meaning what are we issuing to them, what are we selling the Mexican government and where are the weapons going?"

No system for tracing, identifying guns

Initial claims that 90 percent of guns used by criminals in Mexico came from the United States turned out to be based on faulty data analysis. The real figure is probably less than half, but hard to determine because there is no coordinated system between Mexico and the United States for tracing and identifying guns.

That is something Mexican Consul Roberto Rodriguez says should be addressed.

"We need to find a way to cooperate with each other in order to trace the guns in a proper way," Rodriguez said.

He says talks are under way between the two nations on how to establish a better system for law enforcement agencies in each country to share information on guns with each other.

It's 106 miles to Chicago, we got a full tank of gas, half a pack of cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses
8 years 19 weeks ago, 7:28 PM


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Fancy Farm, Kentucky, United States

even making up things to do it by.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
8 years 19 weeks ago, 7:32 PM


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Las Vegas, Nevada

Obama is the damn antichrist and everybody knows it.

8 years 19 weeks ago, 9:54 PM


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New England Territory

his will to take our guns will be the thing that gets him killed, he is basically trying to wrestle with a grizzly bear.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
8 years 19 weeks ago, 11:02 PM


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poking at rabid dogs

just like poking at rabid dogs... or even throwing rocks at a hornets nest two feet above your head.
It is just uneducated stupidity. The right to bear arms is a human citizen right.

Gun Control= the theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her own pantyhose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.
8 years 19 weeks ago, 11:39 PM


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Etowah, TN, United States

but the truth is that Obama and Pelosi are hard at work trying to errode the 2nd amendment. Clinton did it and Obama is hard at it also. They are going to back door this anti-gun campaign with anything that they can use to get what they want...disarmament of the American people. I stated this in an earlier post...they will take our rights a little at a time. seemingly painless, little stuff at first. They will take them slowly but steadily, so as not to spook the herd, and once they have got us weakened, then they will shut us down with very little resistance. They already have the black community wanting all the guns gone. They have all the young people in grade school wanting all the guns gone. It is just a matter of time.

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