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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:34 PM

Vaquero

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Howdy guys

If you haven't already, please remember to vote tomorrow!
Yep, preaching to the choir.
Hamp, hows the weather there? Jet stream should have 1/2 of what you aint tied down flying by here tomorrow.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:41 PM

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voting here

hopefully we can elected Linda here in CT

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:50 PM

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howdy your ownself..

whip her snapper.. what a lop.. did you do any work today.. ok now you do have me laughing.. Going to go have a cold one with ya.. have to do the woo woo drill first so will make that top pop at 1500 sharp mt time.. Hamp, you or Lucky tell Pard what time that is..

Later my highly valued, but very odd buddies..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

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the 1 times 12...........errr.....ahhh 3:00 pm AZ time!!!

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:54 PM

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Prayer request

My best friend has 2 grandsons, 6 and 5, from the same "union".
These are some fun little shits, hunting ,fishing, working, whatever.
Short story, dad's in the slammer for meth and all the stealing that goes with it.
Mom is just as bad, she just aint incarcerated at the current time although she has been and should still be.
For the 3rd time a judge has awarded custody to my bud and his wife.
For the 3rd time the boys have been given back to the bitch who won't do anything but drop 'em off at her moms or her dads and go get fucked up. Just happened friday.
My bud and his BH will make it, broken hearts are "old hat".
I'm asking for prayers for the boys. I have personally been there when they got dropped off by "mom" or when picking them up. Just fucking filthy, fend for yourself find what you can in the house type of existence. Sorry, Just get a bit worked up. GOD and Jesus will know who they are.

Thanks.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:59 PM

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Sorry that you have to witness this..... sometimes I wonder

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 3:05 PM

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You got it Vaq,

my two youngest's mother went down the shitter on that stuff so I know first hand how hard it is on everyone, especially the kids who just don't want to see any bad in mom. Hopefully the courts will pull their head out of their ass and reinstate custody with G-ma and G-pa until or IF daughter and SIL get their shit together, some do and some never do...........Prayers.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:45 PM

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Vaq Check

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"We fight not for Glory nor for Honors; but only and alone we fight for Freedom, which no Good Man surrenders but with his life" - Robert the Bruce "Declaration of Arbroath"
4 years 8 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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Vaquero wrote:
Hamp, hows the weather there? Jet stream should have 1/2 of what you aint tied down flying by here tomorrow.

weather was shitty Saturday and so so Sunday, the five day looks good through Saturday but that could change at the drop of a hat.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 3:34 PM

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Pard.. of course

Yes.. For real prayers for both the boys and the grandparents..

and for you two that you always share thier hurt, and hopefully help raise those kids.. Can't they try to get custody, or is that the sort of thing that will keep them out of the boys lifes. Grandparents don't have a lot of rights when it comes to this sort of thing.. and seems CPS is either the best or the worst..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 3:41 PM

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Pard

CPS and everyone else is on the G'parents side.
They have legally filed for custody twice, and been granted custody.
I need to find whoever is behind all this!

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 3:44 PM

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Quick disclaimer

The dad in this mess is my bud's son. The "mom" is.........somebody I wish i'd never met.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 3:52 PM

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bet i can guess..

I would bet money theres two things going on at the same time.. One is that CPS might not be as "behind" them as your friends think..They have a hard time changing custody so they play both sides.. typical beurocrats that are more afraid of losing thier job than the welfare of the child.. Makes you sick, but a fact..

Second is a liberal judge who listens to the court appointed lawyer.. Mom and Dad have to be close to the "end of the road" before they will grant change, and then (thats why the prayers are important) sometimes the kids wind up with major behaviour problems.. It's a mess.. Glad your there for them buddy.. Yep this needs to happen before those kids lives are ruined..

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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I'll say a prayer for em Vaq.

4 years 8 weeks ago, 4:53 PM

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greg is right,

If I am a Veteran of anything it is doing battle with DCFS (CPS). Even though this thread is not about me, I want to tell a little story to give you an idea how these people think......

I will spare you the agony........fast forward, the ex and I enjoy (not) joint custody (she was and is undependable).....Anyhoo, she hadn't worked since before I gave her the boot, Mom and boyfriend are paying her bills, she is driving around in a 2001 Trans Am which was acquired by trading off the 2000 Grand Prix GTP that I afforded her in the divorce (clear title, talk about making an asset into a liability)....welfare requires zero assets.........I know, I said I would spare you, but I am just setting the stage here..........So she waltz's in with a 'song and dance' about being the sole provider, unemployed, deadbeat dad (I had the kids full time at this point) so on and so forth and without one bit of documentation provided they gave her welfare on behalf of our two kids........

It gets better, after about 2 or 3 months they start garnishing my paycheck (I had no idea this was going on) to the tune of $500/ mo...So I call them (duh!).............

CPS: Well Mr Woodside we are garnishing your paycheck to pay for welfare paid out on behalf of your children.

Me: But I have had the children full time since XX date and have been supporting them as well as paying my child support and their mother has left town and moved to California.

CPS: Well we will need documentation of this............Which I provided, copies of child support check payments, sworn depositions from everyone I could think of......

Those bastards Garnished my pay for a whole year and when the finally deemed that I was on the up and up, they gave me half my money back.........

I feel horrible for the children in this case and I feel just as bad for your friends, they have seen what wonders the state can work when Mom, Dad or whoever says "i'm all better now" and the State/Courts whisk the kids away, back to neglect.

Sorry man, I feel a tad strongly about this subject!

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:51 PM

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Vaq / Hamp

Hamp, Your right, went through the same hell getting m 2 away from my X. The response I always got is "Well, there with there mother, that's what matters" wanna bet, grab on to your back sides you bunch of bums, you are in for one hell of a ride. That's just what I gave them. Cost me everything I had & put me in the hole for years but it was well worth it. would do it again in a heart beat. Ya all are in my prayers Vaq.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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Vaquero

What a horrible story. I will certainly pray for the kids, and for the grandparents.

Because of playing in various bands for a long time, I knew many addicts, hooked and strung out on different drugs, including alcohol. I never knew ONE to reform and get their shit back together. I suppose that I must believe that it happens, that every so often rehab, counseling, and all of that actually does some good, but I've never seen it. Of course, I'm one guy, and I certainly haven't seen everything, by a long shot. Some of these people were personal friends, guys with whom I worked, with immense talent (far more than me), and people that I really liked. I tried, but I could never help them. They'd look me in the eye, cry and express remorse and the resolve to straighten up, and it was all pure bullshit. They just wanted the attention. It affected me personally for a good while, then I finally realized (I guess I'm not to swift on the uptake) that I was being played, so I stopped.

Hampster, I'm sorry for you. I think that you're a totally great guy, and I'm sorry that you were used and hurt in such a way. I'm glad that you have the kids, and that they love and value you. They have half their genes from their mother, but I think that they'll follow your example in life.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:24 PM

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Thanks guys

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:38 PM

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and give them a chance somewhere?

4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:46 PM

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samD

These are the "right kind" of kids. If I need a safe house, I'll let you know.

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4 years 8 weeks ago, 7:51 PM

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but my custody battle to win my kids took 2 and a half years and $98,000. (still cost me a house). But they have been on Honor Role since.

"We fight not for Glory nor for Honors; but only and alone we fight for Freedom, which no Good Man surrenders but with his life" - Robert the Bruce "Declaration of Arbroath"

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