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I have a new toy!!!!!!

If you all recall I taled about a Para-Ordnance 1911 being at my local pawnshop. Well I bought it today!!!!! Its a Para-Ordnance 1911 GI Expert .45. Believe it or not it came with a box,2 Mags,lock,all the books. But it was not cheap and took a big chunk of change out of my wallet at $649.99 but fact of the matter it was brand new never fired. I shot it and fell in love. So now I am in the group of 1911 owners! I love it and its my first pistol!

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4 years 1 week ago, 3:23 PM

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Nice

That's a good deal. I like the Para 1911s. I'm thinking of getting one for my wife. What's the capacity on this model? Para makes hi-capacity 1911s, right?

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4 years 1 week ago, 3:28 PM

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Im not an expert on it as I just got it a few hours ago. mine holds 8 in the clip with one chambered. I highly reccomend ear protection when shooting them in a valley like where I live. As the sound will deafen ya with out it.

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4 years 1 week ago, 3:38 PM

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8 is enough

Mine only holds 7 (it's a GI spec), but 7 of .45ACP is plenty. IMHO, if anybody needs more than a few rounds to stop a threat, they should be using a shotgun. :)

I know about the ear protection. Last time I went out to my buddy's place in the country to pop a few rounds, I thought I'd try w/o the muffs. BIG mistake. My ears were ringing for quite a while.

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4 years 1 week ago, 4:13 PM

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8 is enough?

really,what about multiple attackers,as in a home invasion,i can cite you many instances where 8 was not enough,and what if your beloved 1911 has a jam?best to have a spare magazine too,you don't want 8 is enough to haunt you.

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4 years 1 week ago, 4:00 PM

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Yeah 8 is enough especially when I have both 230 Grain Winchester FMJ and 230 Grain Winchester JHP's. I need more practice as I am not used to pistols yet I have shot several pistols in my day's. I am a huge fan of single action revolvers but decided to get at least one Auto and then start my revolver collection later on in the future.

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4 years 1 week ago, 4:15 PM

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Sounds nice Snake!

Sounds like your hooked Snake! lol

1911's are very sweet and handle in a natural manner. I'd carry the extra mag with you also as 8 is not always enough even for the best shot's. It all depends on the situation, shootouts are creatures of evolution and there is not any set track for them.

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4 years 1 week ago, 5:50 AM

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Dumbass.

But, better than nothing I suppose. Now, get a decent holster, not one of those goddamned Uncle Mike's nylon pouch pieces of shit. I think Virginia only allows concealed carry if you're related to the governor, but since all of you inbred hee haws are cousins, you should be okay.

Snake, if you really did get a gun, DON'T FUCKIN' CARRY IT THINKING YOU'RE SUPERMAN!!! Use your head and realize that if you go around armed, you are held to a higher moral and legal standard than other people. Someone cuts you off in traffic, you smile and let then go about their business. Someone calls you a name, you smile and let them go about their business. You cannot afford to be the one escalating a confrontation if you're packing.

Don't go around flashing the thing, don't go around looking for a reason to "accidentally" tell someone you have a gun. You're not John Wayne and you're not John McClain, so no yippeekiyay motherfucker attitude for you. You're a guy who has a deadly weapon and THE ONLY time anyone should ever find that out is if you have to defend against death or serious bodily harm.

Don't go driving around to gas stations at 3 a.m. hoping to see a robbery or mugging. Don't drive to shitty neighborhoods hoping to attract bad attention. You need to be less willing to get into an altercation now than before.

Why am I harping on this shit? You have shown some immaturity on here in the past, and I know very well what goes on in the mind of young people when they first start carrying a gun, while it's still new and exciting.

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4 years 1 week ago, 9:42 PM

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Runaway- Good advice

I Always remind new CCL people of this. Its a good reminder for everyone. You expressed it perfectly in this quote:

"Use your head and realize that if you go around armed, you are held to a higher moral and legal standard than other people. Someone cuts you off in traffic, you smile and let then go about their business. Someone calls you a name, you smile and let them go about their business. You cannot afford to be the one escalating a confrontation if you're packing."

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4 years 1 week ago, 7:57 AM

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Sweet purchase man

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4 years 1 week ago, 8:29 AM

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I dont think I am gonna CC the 1911. Not complaining but the pistol is a bit large for me to carry on my person. Snake to gun ratio be horrible as it would stick out if I was to carry it. And plus I may have shown imaturity here on the site but i am very aware what ANY firearm can do and believe it or not I am very safe with my guns. An example being when I shoot I always check for whats behind my target area. When reloading I keep the guns pointed in safe direction. I always put my guns on safe and then put it on a table or truck hood for the next person who is shooting to pic up. I NEVER PASS A LOADED GUN AROUND BY HAND! Another Thing IF I was to carry it I dont plan to go around looking for trouble. Like you said only let someone know you are carrying if they are a threat against your life. Dont worry runs.

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4 years 1 week ago, 8:33 AM

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Thanks Syn.

I enjoy it very much. I field stripped it yesterday by following the book instructions and then again from memory. I got it down very well.

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congrats snake

i have to diagree with Runs on this one...You should now start wearing a cape!!!! You are now part of a brotherhood of handgun owners and the world should know it!!!!You are now like the Count Of Monte Christo, well maybe not...he was a swordsman and if you get into a sword fight with ur 1911 you will be stabbed repeatedly due to its size differance.um.....nevermind.....i still like the cape idea

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4 years 1 week ago, 3:13 PM

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Thanks Ebear

I am proud to be among the 1911 owners. 1911's have lots of history as you well awate of I am sure. I love it!!! Check my pic of it when ya got time ed.

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4 years 1 week ago, 3:15 PM

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Well Hung Superhero is the member of the Village People ebear really wishes he could have sucked off.

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nope

i used to rub one out to UnderDog

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You don't really have to answer that. I'm what you would call an under average sized person and I carry a full size XDM and/or Glock daily. I live in south Louisiana and for those who don't know it gets HOT down here!! So sometimes clothing becomes a factor in covering your firearm, but if you invest in a nice IWB holster you should be alright. What I'm saying is don't let the size of your 1911 get to you, you can conceal it if you want to! My advice is carry what you feel comforting. If you don't like it don't carry it, but still practice with it.

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4 years 1 week ago, 4:45 PM

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I am 6'0". I probably wont CC it but I will for a fact practice with it.

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4 years 1 week ago, 5:02 PM

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sounds good man. You got about 4" on me... don't be turned away from full sized guns. I know I was when I started carrying!! Carry what you fell good with. Do you carry now? If so What?

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4 years 1 week ago, 5:20 PM

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No I dont carry yet. But when I do start I will most likely carry a 9mm small frame type pistol.

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4 years 1 week ago, 6:02 PM

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Grats on the new purchase! Pick up a safe to store it in yet? Ya beat me to the punch on the 1911, it got bumped down my list by a Saiga 12. I probably won't be joining the club until late summer, early fall-I've spent the majority of my gun funds on long guns this year. Gotany shiny accessories planned for your new steel?

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4 years 1 week ago, 6:31 PM

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I got the original box it came in is all I have to store it in. At the moment I cant afford anything for it. There are a few things I would like done to it to fit my Snakeish needs. I will go over a few.

1. A reinforced slide.
2. Re-polished feed ramp.
3. The original hammer replaced by a ring hammer.
4. A laser added (But I dont see how I could get it mounted as it dosent have a rail for one)
5. A longer barrell to maybe add a supressor if at all possible.
6. New grips maybe Snake Scale pattern.
7. Wilson Combat Guide Rod.

These are what I would like. As for getting it all done is subject to change lol! to abide by laws and or personal safety.

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4 years 1 week ago, 10:12 AM

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1911 laser grips are available or you can replace the guide rod with one that has a laser in it. There are some out there that replace the rear sight as well. I like the green light lasers my self.

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4 years 1 week ago, 10:19 AM

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Can you point me in the right direction by adding a few links to a few sites? I would like a laser guid rod if the price is right. Thanks in advance.

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4 years 1 week ago, 5:54 PM

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Here's a guide rod laser from LaserMax:
http://www.opticsplanet.net/lasermax-laser-sights-for-para-ordnance-1911...
It's a red laser though-I don't know if I've seen a green for either the grips or guide rod for a 1911 yet, although there certainly could be one out there.
Price is going to be $300+ from what I've seen.

http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/Products/1911/tabid/185/Default.aspx
Crimson Trace grip lasers. Price again is $300+.

If your 1911 has Novak style sights, then you could get a LaserLyte top mounted laser as an option:
http://www.lasersightpro.com/store-products-LLRL-19N-LASERLYTE-REAR-LASE...
This one is under $200, but not sure if it is compatible with your gun. Hope these help!

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4 years 1 week ago, 5:59 PM

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Thanks DoomGuard

However I am afriad to say that all are way out of my price range at the moment. However when I get money to throw around I will be sure to put this as a priority option for my 1911. Im hopin when I am done with the mods that my 1911 will be one of a kind looking. Thanks for your help DoomGuard.

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4 years 1 week ago, 6:21 PM

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Thats the way to go

I started with a Kahr 45(small frame) then a USP 9(slightly bigger) now a XDM 9 or Glock 22(full size), by the way... I love my XDM 9. I carry my XDM about 90% of the time; switching it out with my USP and Glock so my XDM's magazine's springs don't get to weak!

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Snake...

Crimson Trace grips....

happy happy....

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
4 years 1 week ago, 10:44 PM

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Crimson Trace Grips cost lots of money. As soon as I get my rich uncle out of the poor house I will buy me a set lol! But it was a good Idea.-+

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4 years 1 week ago, 10:48 PM

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True, but worth saving for.

I'll check with Tiny (owner of Cole's Gun Shop) and see if he can get referb's and at what price if you like. He also sells the demo he has on the blue guns when new demos come in and I can check and see what kind of price he would give me...

I'm not sure if Laser Max makes a Guide Rod Lazer or not. it would be an option possibly.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
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crimson trace

i have been thinking about getting them for my HP,about 325 bucks if i remember right

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4 years 1 week ago, 11:18 PM

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http://www.lasergripdiscounters.com/browning

$299.00 on this site and I have a friend that might sell them to me and friends for a little over dealer costs... have to check on that this coming Monday.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
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Reboot..

defrag and update calling for a reboot...

c-y'all

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
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see ya isd,hi larry

stay out of trouble

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How ya been Jerry? Staying out of trouble & breaking strings LOL

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congrats on the 1911

congrats on the 1911, but hold and carry responsibly.

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I understand and respect your excitement over the new pistol. I would like to offer the following advice.
Quit worrying about accesories. Save some cash for a press and reloading equipment. Don't go big on it. Buy the Lyman or Lee stuff. Buy the book, read the book numerous times and refer to it often. Then shoot. Don't think aftermarket sights are gonna make you a better shot. Adjustable sights may but you need to understand your gun's poi relative to poa. My first foray into pistols was similar to yours. I was young, single and bought it without anyones help or permission. If you want to shoot, you just bought the "chevy smallblock" of pistols. Good start, now worry about feeding it before you work on it's appetite.
My 2 pennies. Have fun and be safe.

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4 years 1 week ago, 6:28 PM

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Wow Vaq

Never thought of it that way. You make a good point. I admit I am very excited about my 1911. Your right, a reloading setup would be a wise place to start. Feed the 1911 now, dress it in its sunday best later.

When you say buy the book are you saying the book for reloading or the book for my 1911 as I did get a small book with my 1911.

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The reloading book

The more the merrier. Cross references save a lot of BS when working on a new load. Then, at your fingertips without wiki or google, you have copyrighted information that holds the publisher responsible. The powder manufacturers have free handbooks for loads that match the intended use of the powder, for free. Bullet, press and die manufacturers charge for thiers but they are sooo much more comprehensive. I reccomend at least 2 bullet manufacturer manuals and all the powder manufacturer data you can amass.

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Another good point Vaq

I will check into reloading as soon as possible. I dont see .45 ACP's and 12 Gauge being hard to reload if done correctly. I will be sure to read the fine print on reloading as my life is on the line when it comes to reloaded ammunition.

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4 years 1 week ago, 6:55 PM

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You got it backwards.

Your life is on the line "when" reloading ammunition. Reloads are for practice and proficiency. Factory is for carry and defence. I can load the most accurate and devastating rounds possible but I rely on Federal for my personal safety. I hunt and plink with my reloads.

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4 years 1 week ago, 7:00 PM

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Reloads are for general target practices and Range time basically. As for my choice in ammo I have a box of Winchester 230 Gr FMJ's and a Box Of Winchester Personal Protection JHP's both are in white boxes if that makes any difference I wouldnt know.

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Super nice, Good luck.

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