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5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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Does anyone on this website actually know the number of people who "do" get formal training before they attempt to shoot a weapon?

I'll bet the number of people who do is really low, because people don't have the time to attend a 10 hour training class. They simply want protection NOW!!!

5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:16 PM

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Very true gatesofzion

I owned a pistol for almost 8 years before I when to a class. If you shoot in matches it will help some, but the class are great to learn more about your states laws on carring a handgun.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:23 PM

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then learn how to use it. That way at least you will have the peace of mind that comes with owning a weapon that will cause an intruder harm if they should ever be so dumb as to come int the home of a gun owner.

5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:33 PM

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NOW!!!".............Get it against yourself, because you may very well become another Plaxico Burris. If you are lucky, you won't die, but you will always have a nasty scar and some pain, to remind you how well you protected yourself--and maybe how close you came to jepardizing the lives of family or friends.

Incidentally, you lose your bet. With the advent of Concealed Carry laws, tens of thousands of people are taking training every week, to meet that prerequisite to obtaining a permit.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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I'm very familiar with CCW laws since I am in the process of obtaining one, and it would be ever so wonderful if everyone followed all the laws of the land, however, in today's world people are scared about what they see happening within our own government and they know the only way to fully protect their families is to have their own firearm.

Should these people be trained? Sure they should.

But when you live next door to drug dealer like I do and you live every day scared for your own life, most people would rather take a chance of accidentally discharging a firearm because they were not properly trained than to get shot by their next door neighbor because of some stupid incident that occurred at 2 AM in the morning one a Saturday night when I asked the asshole next door to shut up because he thought he was the only person in living our condominium complex, I will take my chances owning a weapon I may not be fully trained to handle.

5 years 25 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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if I recall correctly. It seems to me you have an issue with your neighbor and that it is of an angry nature. (Not that I blame you, understand) This seems like a recipe for disaster to me. Anger and guns aren't a smart combination--kinda like alcohol and driving. Consider moving.

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5 years 25 weeks ago, 5:22 PM

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You are right in that I have brought up this subject before.

It's exactly because of what happened to me in this incident with my neighbor that I purchased a handgun.

Before that time I had no need for one for I have lived here in the same complex for over 20 years without any incidents whatsoever.

However, my neighbor and I both own our homes and I'm not moving and I don't think he is either.

5 years 25 weeks ago, 4:42 PM

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that people don't have the time to take a couple of day-long courses that have the potential of teaching you something you didn't know you didn't know. It's a matter of priorities. The thing about guys is that they all think they are a de facto good shot. Everyone think's they are safe. Yet something contributed to the fact that accidental deaths due to firearms has been cut in half in 100 years, a time when the population tripled. In my opinion, the NRA has a lot to do with that. I actually have no problem with someone getting a firearm NOW!!! under the circumstances, since there is a possibility that at least some models will no longer be available, but I wouldn't touch it until I had formal training in its operation and safety. I work under the axiom that I am a danger to myself and others unless I am totally knowledgeable about every firearm I own.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
5 years 25 weeks ago, 2:31 AM

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Define "Training"

Training to me is not an eight or ten hour course. That is a familiarization course. It is a lecture with test at the end. LLE has spewed this stuff before. The application of common sense will allow one to use firearms indefinitely without danger to oneself. I used guns of all kinds for years prior to joining the army and getting formal training, and I have never had a negligent discharge. On the other hand, plenty of people with formal training, people who are supposed to be proficient with firearms, have killed themselves through negligence. Am I saying formal training is a bad idea? Of course not. It is simply not necessary provided you use the safety between your ears.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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