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9 years 6 weeks ago, 7:07 PM


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Green Valley, Free State of Arizona, United States

Posted by Ashley Rueff at 12:45 p.m.

SPRINGFIELD---Hours before busloads of gun rights advocates are scheduled to descend on the Capitol, a House committee today advanced a series of measures designed to increase gun control in Illinois.

Among the restrictions approved by the House Executive Committee include an assault weapons ban and legislation allowing only one gun purchase a month. Chicago Mayor Richard Daley perenially pushes for such gun crackdowns due to continued violence in some city neighborhoods.

Testifying in favor of anti-gun measures was Annette Nance, whose son, Blair Holt, was shot on a CTA after leaving Julian High School in May 2007.

“Ever since then I’ve been on board trying to change the laws,” Nance said. She is a firefighter and her ex-husband, Ronald Holt, is a police officer. Together they started Purpose Over Pan, a support group for families that have lost loved ones to gun violence.
She said she was unaffected by those coming to lobby in support of gun rights.

“I don’t have a problem with them voicing their rights,” Nance said. “I have a problem with guns killing people.”

Shortly before 2 p.m. gun rights backers are scheduled to finish their march to the Capitol to lobby lawmakers on issues such as letting people carry concealed weapons. It's part of the Illinois State Rifle Association's annual lobby day.

Supporters of tough gun restrictions want to crack down on the availability of weapons in a society marred by shooting rampages that have left a trail of death at Northern Illinois University, a Baptist church in Downstate Maryville and on the streets of Chicago.

But gun rights advocates argue that making guns more available will cause criminals to think twice before they turn ordinary citizens into the latest victims of gun crimes.

Richard Pearson, executive director of the rifle association, said he expects more than 5,000 gun owners to visit Springfield because they are "seeing legislation that attacks their rights, and they're not happy about it."

The group is particularly fired up following last year's U.S. Supreme Court ruling that struck down Washington, D.C.'s handgun ban as unconstitutional, prompting a similar pending challenge to Chicago's own ban.

In Illinois, the pressure this year is targeted at legislation to let citizens carry concealed weapons with training and a permit. Illinois and Wisconsin are the only two states banning such action, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

Sponsoring Rep. John Bradley (D-Marion) said the high court's handgun ruling is among issues helping his bill gain momentum.

"Now will it be enough for us to pass it? I don't know," Bradley said.

Bradley acknowledged that one of the hardest hurdles to overcome on many gun bills is they need three-fifths approval to pass the House and Senate rather than a simple majority.

Rep. Brandon Phelps (D-Harrisburg) is hoping he can pass a bill to leave it up to each county to decide whether to allow concealed carry. Even the NRA opposes the county-by-county proposal, saying it would be as confusing as putting different speed limits in different counties without telling motorists how fast they can go when they cross county lines.

Opposition also remains strong against the concealed carry proposals from the Chicago area's law-and-order sectors, including Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart and State's Atty. Anita Alvarez, who say legalizing concealed weapons in urban areas would make violence worse.

"Bar fights will turn into murders," Alvarez said.

What both sides have in common is that neither proposal is likely to become law this year—the two sides in the gun debate tend to neutralize each other, with only their membership lists fattened.

9 years 6 weeks ago, 7:23 PM


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elgin, il, United States

Its sad is'nt it. Im hoping that Downstate Illinois comes up strong for us. They hate Mr Daley, and resent him talking for the whole StaTE.They need to look at all of these gun related crimes and put allot of tha blame on delinquent parents who let thier kids run wild and let older gangbangers raise thier kids,. Then when something bad happens look for everything else to blame.

...check... G-AZ
9 years 6 weeks ago, 4:05 AM


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50 Miles WEST of the Atlantic, GA

Time and time again, laws are passed to empower the governors and emasculate the citizens, but never address the root of the problem. It's the "BEHAVIOR", stupid(s). Homey doesn't care if the gun laws pass, or not. In fact, more than one "Homey" has stated that they feel more confident when they know their opponent is unArmed, but alas, I am preaching to the choir.

When ANTI-GUN Crusaders decry “gun violence” or “gun deaths”, they typically mean “deaths of young inner city minority males in affairs of honor or secondary to the drug trade", collateral damage, or in some cases, mistaken identity relating to the first two, or put another way, the guys who hold their pistols sideways.

Essentially, it implies, the burden to protect these people from themselves lies squarely on the shoulders of the tax-paying, Law-abiding citizen.

Gainfully employed since 1974
9 years 6 weeks ago, 4:03 AM


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Richland, MO, United States
Lawmakers know this

Why do they pass these laws? Not for our safety, but for theirs. Their goal, whether Democrat or Republican, is to disarm us so they can get rid of the democratic process and remain in power with the military behind them. Why do these police organizations support this shit when they know more guns in the hands of citizens equals less crime? A few reasons; job security is the biggest. More laws mean more crime. More crime equals more cops needed. And if I am allowed to carry a gun, i can get a job as an armed security guard somewhere and that takes away the monopoly the cops have for off-duty moonlight jobs. And the chiefs and sheriffs? Hell, they're fucking politicians just like the fags who don't wear badges. Especially the fucking sheriffs. They just love the face time on the news standing behind whatever piece of shit politician is out there talking about the newest "commonsense" infringement on our rights. They will all burn in hell sooner or later and if things keep going, it will be sooner.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
9 years 6 weeks ago, 7:11 PM


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Dec 2008
commiefornia, United States

Oh my God this pisses me off, guns don't kill people, people do- I know it has been said a billion times but the truth is the truth. Hang the assholes that use guns in crime, why do they penalize the people that use them for sport? It's absolutely idiotic how they use this bullshit! Don't let these guys sit on death row for 30 years learning how to beat the system and beat us to death with appeals, take these stupid M______ F_____ out back and give them what they deserve NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home" Thomas Jefferson

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