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13 weeks 5 days ago, 5:32 PM

Andrew530

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Hello everybody i was hoping you all can help me with a very important decision to make. One that im sure you all made before. Hopefully soon i will purchasing my first handgun an im stuck between two makes the Glock 19c or possibly Glock 23c and on the other hand the ruger sr9. I really hope you all can help me i would greatly appreacite all feed back and info. Please help me to make the best decision, i want my first handgun to be not only a good one but also reliable. Thanks again everyone

13 weeks 4 days ago, 6:06 PM

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You normally cant go wrong with a glock. myself i think they are a little over rated. for the money and definate quality, i have went with the XD40. Springfield Arms is top quality and are perfect out of the box. now they offer the XDM which is a match barrel, interchanging grips, and a few more new features like higher capacity. I qualified for CCW with the XD40 new out of the box. All twenty qualifying rounds were grouped within two inches. Not bad considering that it was 39 degrees and raining. I have ran about 700 rounds through it with not one malfunction. there is nothing more deadly than a marine and his rifle....

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 6:09 PM

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a hungry redneck trying to feed his family(see Mrs. SmithandWesson)

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 6:25 PM

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Para-Ordnance LDA
Easy to operate - Trigger action smooth - optional laser in slide - fits my hand better than Glock - I own 2 LDA's and I really like them. I know nothing of the Ruger. I have a P89 that is not one of my favorite auto's. JMO. Good Luck with your purchase.

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 7:33 PM

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i had a few pistols given to me but the first one i actually bought was an xd .45 and i love it. I put 750 rounds of wolf ammo through it without cleaning a thing to the point where the ramp was not shiney. i have never had a single malfunction of any kind in over 1,500 rounds though it and it is very very accurate. The only thing i would do different is i wouldve gotten a 9mm because the .45 is so expensive to shoot.

13 weeks 4 days ago, 8:50 PM

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I would go with the g23, just my preference. I had a g19, but prefer the g23 cause you can always buy a .357 sig or 9mm conversion barrel so you can shoot more than one caliber out of the same weapon (i.e. shoot 9mm for plinking cause the ammo is cheaper, and load .40 or .357 sig for defense). If you start with the g19, you can't go up in size. XD's are great reliable guns, but I've never seen conversion barrels for them like you can find for glocks, and my opinion, glocks maybe ugly, but they are as rugged as they come.
I'll tell you the same thing I tell everyone else looking to purchase their first handgun.
1. don't go cheap. just save up and wait till you can afford a good name brand gun that has a reputation built on durability. Look to see what different law enforcement agencies and armed forces are carring. they usually put their weapons through pretty rigerous testing before selection.
2. rent a few good name brands in the same frame size and caliber at a range and shoot them one after another. see what feels the best in your hand, and what you shoot the tightest groups with.
3. after making your selection... practice, practice, practice. not just shooting, but drawing, dry firing, learning all of the functions and becoming comfortable with your new weapon.
good luck

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 2:31 PM

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This is a little off subject, but everyone I have ever talked to said dry firing was bad for the weapon. Is it?

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 3:17 PM

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my friends that are gunsmiths(having 60+ years experience between them) have told me that there are no issues with dry firing but i did break a firing pin in my 870 doing this once also on rim fire guns it aint a good idea as the firing pin strikes the edge of the chamber and may cause a burr either causing a shell not to load or to not extract

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 3:25 PM

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I do not have the experience Greasy's friends have, but the amount a snap cap costs, I would recommend using these, it also makes you clear the chamber which is always the correct thing to do.

clint

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 3:31 PM

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or in a pinch a EMPTY case works well too a snap cap or Empty case simply keeps the firing pin from overtraveling IF YOU USE A CASE MAKE SURE IT IS EMPTY!!!

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13 weeks 4 days ago, 4:37 PM

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thanks again everyone im really leaning on the Glock 23c reaper makes a good point

13 weeks 4 days ago, 4:55 PM

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The first handgun I ever bought was a barreta 92 in 9mm it wasn't a bad gun but seemed to get sticky in cold or wet weather and I just didn't feel it had enough punch I traded it for a ruger 357mag securety six and been hooked on revolvers ever since.

13 weeks 3 days ago, 6:29 PM

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the first leagal was a p89 ruger buddy of mine in law enforcement had a glock emptied the clip then threw the damn thing at the pert hit em in the head and knocked his a$$out,my p89 was new back in 88 and had problems sit n spins ive never had a problem with

13 weeks 3 days ago, 6:40 PM

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I got a P85 MKII. It is a little out dated, so the safety features are not that much up to par. For instance the gun can fire without the magazine when a shell is chambered. Good gun, dependable, reliable.

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13 weeks 3 days ago, 6:51 PM

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Reaper or anyone else that can answer this question-What are the models Glock makes that have interchangable barrels? I need a new handgun.

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13 weeks 3 days ago, 8:49 PM

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is the man for this he straightens my ass out every time

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13 weeks 3 days ago, 9:56 AM

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I know you can get a 9mm and .357 sig conversion barrel for a g23 (I own all of them). I'm sure you can do the same for all .40 cal glock models (g22, g27 g35 etc..) (if you have a g23, you will need a g19 mag to shoot 9mm etc...)you can do the same on most sigs.
I know you can get a 10mm conversion barrel for a g21 and you can also get a 400 corbon or 40 super barrel for a g21. (I have the 10mm). I'm sure you can do the same for all .45acp glock models. (if you have a g21, you will need a g20 mag to shoot 10mm etc...)
Pretty sure you can get a .22 LR conversion barrel for all 9mm and .40 glock models.
Rule of thumb... you can go down in size, just not up in size. You can't just put a 9mm barrel in a .40 and expect to shoot 9mm... IT MUST BE A CONVERSION BARREL which means the outside diameter of the barrel is bored out the the size of the frame (slide) and the inside of the barrel is bored to the specific caliber. It all comes down to the frame supporting the round's head space.
just goole: i.e. "glock 23 conversion barrel" etc... and you will come up with a bunch of choices.
manufacturers include Bar Sto, Lone Wolf, EFK Fire Dragon, Storm Lake etc...
If you have any questions, message me.

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13 weeks 3 days ago, 1:08 PM

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wow this guy knows his stuff

13 weeks 3 days ago, 1:23 PM

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Thats my Reaper, always impressive in the knowledge of firearms

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