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6 years 27 weeks ago, 9:04 AM

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Im Stuck...Help

OK, So heres the situation, as it is now a new one. I am going to get a handgun when I get home and there are reason and different purposes I am getting this.
1. I need a concealed weapon soon
2. I really want to finally own a handgun and not just rent them
3. Theres nothing more fun then shooting a shit load of rounds...other then Liquor(not to be done at the same time!!!)
4. Dammit, I owe myself a pretty present

So with these factors in mind, these are my finalists. If you decide to help me in choosing my which gun to pop my cherry with, please also leave a reason:

Springfeild Armory XD /.40/

Smith & Wesson M&P45 /.45/

Glock 22 /.40/

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 9:13 AM

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go with the booze

go with the booze

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 10:16 AM

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thats helpful...thanks :)

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 9:41 AM

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why are you flip floppind between a .40 and a .45? shouldn't you decide on the caliber first... then the piece?

are you stuck on a polymer frame? I have both and prefer aluminum... but its just preference? try a sig!!!

I have a couple glocks (19 and 23) and my buddy has a .45 XD. I have no experience with the M&P. The glocks and XD are pretty similar. I think the XD is basically a glock with a couple added safety features. It shoots a little smoother that my glocks (they tend to have a little more pop... but the barrels on these particular models are a half inch shorter.)

If I were you, I would just go to a guns range and try our all three. You're gonna end up with a favorite. take your time with each. this could be one of the most important purchases of your life

GOOD LUCK!!

6 years 27 weeks ago, 10:05 AM

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great advise

the way the gun feels in your hand is very important.and renting at the range is a great way to choose the perfect fit for you.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 9:44 AM

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that was me that posted the last comment... i just wasnt signed in yet

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 10:15 AM

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Well I have held all three and they all felt god, hence them being my top three. thats why the difference in caliber. 40/45 both big enough to confirm my manhood. The recoil is never really a problem due to the fact that I am able to hold my weapon and shoot just fine even with the worst kick. Just wondering if yall had those ever so impressive personal experiences and favorites between the three.

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6 years 27 weeks ago, 2:11 PM

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"owe myself a pretty

"owe myself a pretty present"... You crack me up!

I haven't shot any of these, but I've been eyeing the 9mm version of the Springfield XD. Actually... now that I think about it... weren't you the one who told me about the XD in the first place??

6 years 27 weeks ago, 2:39 PM

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Yup

Yes I was, good memory

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6 years 24 weeks ago, 10:22 PM

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gun selection

Know what you mean about owing yourself a new toy. My advice is go with the Springfield XD 5" tactical in .45acp. I own one and it has never failed to digest and spit out the empties. I say .45acp because the brass is dirt cheap and easy to reload. I do it, anyone can do it. Nothing like finding your favorite combination of bullet, powder and primer. I use a Hornady 200 grain jacketed hollowpoint XTP with 6 grains of Bullseye and a CCI large pistol primer to kick it off. Damn acurate with a good punch. It's your choice, but I must say the XD has a better feel (ergonomics) as well as 13 round magazine. Have fun and take the advice of checking all of them out.

6 years 23 weeks ago, 12:45 PM

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ok

well put sir, well put

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6 years 22 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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XD insight

Thanks for all the comments on the XD I have been looking at them for a few weeks now trying to make up my mind on buying one (.45acp). Thanks for helping me make my decision, this is the reason I joined this site for good gun totin' folks like you. I am relatively new to shooting sports and have been trying to decide on a bigger caliber than a 9mm. What is the difference other than the obvious between .45acp & .40s&W? Stopping power, price, Suggestions?

6 years 22 weeks ago, 10:11 AM

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.45 vs. .40

Big Mernie-

.45=bigger and slower
.40=smaller and faster

When comparing ammo... you have to take a few things into account. weight: obviously, the heavier the projectile, the slower it will go (on the same cartridge)
velocity: how fast the projectile is traveling
energy: amount of force at impact (I look at energy to determine stopping power)
bbl: barrel length... the longer the barrel... the higher velocity

As for price on .45 vs. .40... .45 will run a few (usually $5-$7) more per box because they are larger and require more brass, powder, heavier for shipping etc...

Below I copied the ballistics form a couple different kinds of ammo. They are both Crobon products which I think is quailty defense ammo. The DPX is a barnes X hunting projectile made for defense which is designed for maximum penetration and tissue carnage. The tradition JHP is known for its high velocity and good expansion.

I included .357 sig cause I am a believer that it does the job the best against a human target. It is similar to a 9mm projectile on a .40 cartridge, but as you can see it has tremendous velocity and energy. the draw back is that it is expensive for shooting ammo. Some weapons such as glocks and sigs allow you to buy a .40, then drop in a .357sig barrel so you can shoot both (.40 for plinking and .357sig for defense). If you decide on .45, I recommend you get "Plus P" ammo for defense.

DPX
cal:357 SIG Weight:125 GR. velocity:1350 FPS energy:505LBS bbl:4.0
cal:40 S&W weight:140 GR. velocity:1200 FPS energy:448LBS bbl:4.0
cal:45 AUTO weight:160 GR. velocity:1050 FPS energy:392LBS bbl:3.0
cal:45 AUTO+P weight:185 GR. velocity:1075 FPS energy:475LBS bbl:5.0
CORBON JHP
cal:357 SIG weight:115 GR. velocity:1500 FPS energy:575LBS bbl:4.0
cal:357 SIG weight:125 GR. velocity:1425 FPS energy:564LBS bbl:4.0
cal:40 S&W weight:135 GR. velocity:1325 FPS energy:526LBS bbl:4.0
cal:40 S&W weight:150 GR. velocity:1200 FPS energy:480LBS bbl:4.0
cal:40 S&W weight:165 GR. velocity:1150 FPS energy:485LBS bbl:4.0
cal:45 AUTO+P weight:165 GR. velocity:1250 FPS energy:573LBS bbl:5.0
cal:45 AUTO+P weight:185 GR. velocity:1150 FPS energy:543LBS bbl:5.0
cal:45 AUTO+P weight:200 GR. velocity:1050 FPS energy:490LBS bbl:5.0
cal:45 AUTO+P weight:230 GR. velocity:950 FPS energy:461LBS bbl:5.0

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