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3 years 3 weeks ago, 9:43 PM

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Jon Gruber, PhD in Economics, from Harvard, and the putative architect of Obamacare, recently performed a RARE PUBLIC deed, on behalf of his work for the Obama administration..............Professor Gruber actually told the TRUTH, about his work!!
In doing so, a number of videotaped speeches and verbal presentations show him delivering these lectures, as would a strutting egoist, supremely confident and proud of HIS invaluable contributions to the implementation of "The Affordable Care Act" [ACA], aka Obamacare. BUT-----in doing so, he managed to divulge, in his zeal, the design of the "System" would require absolute secrecy, because IF the people of the USA [and the Congress who never read the bill] got wind of what REALLY was going to be implemented, the Congress would NEVER pass it.
I invented a good shorthand description for it--I call it "THE ROBIN HOOD PRINCIPLE" [Steal from the wealthy and REDISTRIBUTE to the poor].

So, the TRUTH MUST be avoided at all costs, and a "con" story would have to be constructed and sold by the leadership..........You remember--"if you like your present plan, you can keep it" and all of the accompanying BS like lower premiums, lower deductibles, keep your present Doctors, etc, etc, etc'-----and who were the chief conspirators??---The POTUS and Nancy Pelosi["we have to pass the bill, SO WE CAN FIND OUT WHAT IS IN IT".}

And per Professor Gruber, the STUPIDITY of the people of the USA will take care of the rest of the needed "cover". By his remarks, Gruber indicts himself as stupid--or perhaps at a minimum--ignorant. It is hard to believe that a PhD from Harvard in any major area of people-driven study like ECONOMICS, cannot remember the normal distribution of intelligence in the USA.
The fact is, based on the use of highly valid and reliable IQ tests, that the middle 68% of the population have IQs of from ~85 to ~125 around an average of 100. This is hardly worthy of the "STUPID" label.

I CAN HARDLY WAIT FOR THE NEW CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEES TO TAKE A CHUNK OUT OF GRUBER'S BEHIND. AFTER THREE OR FOUR SESSIONS, HE IS GOING TO BE THE "MAN WITH NO ASS", AS WILL BE THE POTUS AND HIS FELLOW PERJURING CON MEN..

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
3 years 3 weeks ago, 12:27 AM

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I am certain the new Congress will pass, piece by piece, dismantling legislation, to force the idiot-in-chief to veto each, and have the veto over-ridden. This will take time, but it is politically, much safer, than impeachment, or so say the eunuch senators and congressmen, who call themselves, men {No offense to the women]

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
3 years 3 weeks ago, 1:59 PM

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I ageee with LLE, if the gop does not dismantle the aca, why would we ever vote for them again. I have never thought a third party would be a good idea however, if the gop continues on in the way they ave, I see no other optoon. For me, this is thier last chance.

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3 years 3 weeks ago, 11:33 AM

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I believe the ACA will be remembered as another of this country's failed attempts by the Fed-Libs to prove they know better than the "people", how the Country should "behave". If the principal negative features of the ACA are gutted, and we return to a market-based approach, we will have saved one of the world's best health-care service delivery systems, and still have the opportunity to carefully identify the past, real cost-oriented problems that existed and remove the causes of those problems. If we actually DO THAT, we should be able to apply our societal compassion by taking care of those who cannot totally pay for high quality health care, WITHOUT CREATING ANOTHER GIGANTIC, CHAOTIC FEDERAL BUREAUCRACY SIMILAR TO THE VA.

With respect to impeachment, you seem to be insinuating that the law of the land [Constitution of the USA] must not be properly implemented in this case, because of the fear of the politics of racism being hung around Congressional necks. If there is a battle which, in my opinion MUST be fought, it is this one. Our base-rock jurisprudence value system seems to have done reasonably well over the history of this country's growth and development. Crimes must be investigated, potential criminals identified, charges properly made, fair trials concluded, and verdicts rendered. The fact is that there exists more than enough evidence to indicate that the present POTUS has committed, and continues to commit "high crimes and misdemeanors", in office. Failure to honor the trial of the validity of such charges, creates in my opinion, a most dangerous erosion of our beloved Constitution, and plays directly into the hands of those who wish to destroy our democratic-republic form of government. If the new Congress will permit such an erosion at the alter of politics, imagine what they might permit with respect to the First or Second Amendments, as an example. Do you really want to just check back in 50 years, and wait passively to find out the rest of the story?

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3 years 3 weeks ago, 9:20 PM

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"obamacare is burned into the minds of journalists--and beyond that, where is the backup to your assertion that "we're stuck with it forever", and further, where is the evidence that the populous believes [now], or WILL believe in the future, that Obama saved America's health care system? A contiuing survey of seven of the most reputable polls by RealClearPolitics has the people of the USA AGAINST the ACA by about 52%, and for it, by about 38%--hardly reflective of a belief of "saving" the system.

The oath of office states "support and defend the constitution of the United States"; are you saying the amendments are NOT part of the constitution, when you critique me on an applestoapples/orangestooranges basis? I find NO DIFFERENCE in following a constitutionally affirmative duty to indict and try alleged illegal practices on the part of the POTUS, with the constitutionally required affirmative duty to follow prescribed legislative procedure in every official action-- no apples to apples-oranges to oranges problem there at all.

If the POTUS is permitted to create law, in a lawless manner, without censure, perhaps the Senate and House may want to get some of that action on their pet peave amendments, and circumvent the provisions of the constitution that treat of amending amendment language, believing they can get away with it, too.

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3 years 3 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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You argue opinion as though it is fact, and insert opinion [see your last paragraph] that flies off in a different direction. What does that have to do with the price of tea in communist China? [I am all for elected officials carrying out the will of the people who elected them.]

Please do not put words in my mouth. I said NOTHING about Congress hypothetically impeaching presidents for "ANY" perceived wrongs. The constitution provides for impeachment as a potential remedy for alleged official [not just presidential] wrongdoing, just as it provides for legislative procedure and authority as a method for righting societal problems. Which is the apple and which is the orange? Or are they BOTH tools in the kit of the federal toolbox??

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]

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