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3 years 39 weeks ago, 9:42 PM

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So I'm putting together my list of things to get for the 2012 Chinese Muslim Zombie Mutant Communist Apocalyptic Invasion Rapture and one thing I'm looking at is a diesel generator. I've figured that to maintain all the comforts of home, I'm going to need a 14k or larger generator, and I would prefer diesel for the durability, availability of fuel, and to keep from having to store lots of gas and diesel.

In addition to being ready for the end of everything, power outages of three weeks or so happen every two or three years around here, so having that backup will be nice.

I'm looking at a Kubota 15k setup, but I know nothing about good or bad brands and don't know where to look for good deals. Who can help point me in the right direction?

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 4:36 PM

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15kw is a lot of juice, fuel and noise. How big is your house? Gas(either natural or propane) will serve your heating and cooking needs much more efficiently. The frquency and duration of outages you experience sound like they are weather related, most likely ice in your area. Refrigerators and lighting or running a furnace fan don't require much power at all. A back-up AC window unit and a 3kw genset will have your neighbors jealous to say the least! And you can convert a gasoline engine to run on propane. Storage of backup fuel and worrying about it going bad are covered.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:39 PM

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Good call, Vaq

Get a big ass gas tank and have it filled from time to time.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 6:09 PM

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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Still making the SS payments. Business is good. How you holding up?

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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Doing a little better.
Man I was really down.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 6:40 PM

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Hey CW

Glad to see you on again. Hope things are starting to look up for you. Let me know if there is anything I can do. You remain in my prayers

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:32 PM

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Hey Randy

Thanks Sir. I guess nothin no one can do.
Just take some time to get used to her not
being here after 33 years.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:19 PM

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with the intent of being able to run my whole house (2688 sq/ft with all electric appliances) as is. The fuel consumption I read for the Kubota was 1.26 gal/hr at max load, which isn't too bad considering I don't plan to run everything at once, but this is the first thing I found and of course I intend to keep shopping.

I've used 3k generators in Iraq and they don't seem to be able to power shit, but those may have been shitty military models that have been used and abused.

I still like the idea of diesel because of the different sources of fuel that can be used in a pinch, but fuel going bad over time is more of a concern with diesel than with gasoline.

Ultimately, the generator is fairly low on the list, but since I'm stuck here in this wonderful Carribbean paradise, planning is what I spend most of my time doing.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 4:46 PM

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I’ve been thinking long and hard on how to put this in words. Aside from wind and hydro all our electricity comes from boiling water, to make steam, to turn an armature, to make electricity. These heat sources are varied and include coal, natural gas, nuclear and oil. Each has its values and liabilities.
The point is, why boil water to make electricity to send it down-line to heat an electric stove to boil water??? That makes as much sense as melting ice to have water to boil to make electricity to run a freezer to make ice. I know a bunch of us live in hot climates where ice is not found in abundance anytime of the year, but the northern bunch got the point. Electricity is a great tool for our use. So is fire. Cooking and heating are best done with the same fuels used for electric generation, barring nukes of course. Wood and propane are the easiest to go get and bring back. At least for the time being. If you are “sizing” a generator, keep it to the basics. Lighting and cooling just about cover it. Pumping water might be in a “grey area” but a pump handle and a bucket will do just fine when it comes down to needs.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:24 PM

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get two

7000 generators and wire them in sequence so you can run one or both,depending on your load requirements.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:28 PM

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that's a damn good idea. Probably a little more expensive though.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:41 PM

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15K as in 1500 Watts or 15KW ?

You should also consider Solar Panels and capacitor/battery storage units. As a main backup with a fuel type for a secondary fall back system.

http://www.solarngreen.com/

This is a very good option that should work for an extended time if maintained correctly.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:50 PM

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I might try the two generators wired together. Or I might just hook a stationary bike up to a big-ass alternator and make my wife earn her dinner every night. I haven't decided.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 8:58 PM

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LOL

Hell, just attach a couple of bicycle generators to your sons shoes with a lead to a storage unit and he can stock pile some juice while he is running all over the place!

Justin never seemed to sit down for half a minute, I swear if we could have tapped half the energy he expended we would still have power stored up...!

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:17 PM

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I just received a generator that was given to me. I originally bought it 2-3 yrs ago from Home Depot for a relative and they reimbursed me. They used the generator for about 8 hours one afternoon and it has been sitting in their garage unused ever since. I just happened to make a comment about it the last time I was over there, and they offered to give it to me. I took it, and it is now sitting in my garage, unused. I think paid about $700-800 originally when I bought it. I'll have to check the specs... I don't know any off hand. Its atleast 5000 Watts but maybe 6500 or 7500? Not sure. Anyway, there has been gas sitting in this thing the whole time. I haven't tried to fire it up yet, but won't the carbs be all gummed up? If so, how hard are they to get too? I don't know shit about this thing. I've had dirt bikes and quads my whole life, so I'm hoping this won't be much different. ebear is a fairy.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:29 PM

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If there is a fuel shut off valve, the carb is pobably fine. Assuming that the valve has been closed. At any rate, I would try to start it as is. I have a 3 yo welder/generator that has been sitting for at least a year, total hours =11, and it started on the 3rd pull yesterday. Same old gas. If it wont start you aint lost nothing but a couple of minutes.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:51 PM

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Very very old gas turns to varnish like substance...
I do what Vaq mentioned to start... If it doesn't at least fire, check the plug.... replace if needed and swap the old gas for new...

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:19 PM

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Get some of that sta-bil and a little bottle hangs from the gas cap and a drop of that shit keeps the gas clean foerver. They also have a new stuff calling it beach sponge or something weird and Loctite makes it too. You just pour a amount in and even car, because this ethynol will gunk a fuel spray right up. But both these companies claim their product will even clean injectors and get rid of that gas that tearns into a tar like shit. Soon Fl. is going all corn and in three years will have 15% ethanol in the Gas. I got a Hot set of wheels and I am tired of the ethanol shit already and what it is doing to small and large engines. But 27 farmers will grow corn only instead of strawberries, and the county and heavy equipment operaters and computer guys, all jobs and construc. and will be built in three years. Lets see if it pays off if we live that long. It is intended for florida only and they already have the land and 300 million dollars to do it, and not from taxpayers, from investors. What are they gonna charge?

My brother on a farm has a cheap windmill and it pumps water to the house all day and runs the fridge and freezer, and 2 light bulbs. when everyone else is in the dark they come to his house for water and warmth and food. He also has a franklin stove and that baby gets hot! JLC

3 years 38 weeks ago, 6:03 PM

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I'd drain the old

gas before starting it.It probably still has old gas in the float bowl unless it evaporated.I would put in new gas and buy some Seafoam additive, add to the new gas and the Seafoam will clean your jets and such.When you get the new gas,try and get gas WITHOUT Ethanol.That might be easier there than here.ebear is a fairy

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:33 PM

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Franklin Stoves,

Now there's something that will keep you warm! I had a friend (several years ago) who could get his warm enough to heat a whole trailer house. Had to use fans to move the warm air around but had to do that anyway to keep from being too hot in the living room where he had it. Seems like he had gotten a piece of granite to set in on in the living room then run the smoke stack up and out of the wall. Not sure what he used to keep the hot stack from lighting the wall on fire, but he had it for like 15 years till he sold the house.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:39 PM

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if eBear is a fairy

He can *POOF* it working!!!

LOL

Seafoam, Stabil, Lucus and a few others would work great...

I let my 280zx turbo sit for 5 years with a tank in it, didn't do a thing, but it was fuel injection and a sealed tank (gas cap sealed air tight) where you had to flip the locking lever up to break the seal to take the cap off..

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:41 PM

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if ebear is a fairy

Ishootdaily wrote:
He can *POOF* it working!!!

LOL

Seafoam, Stabil, Lucus and a few others would work great...

I let my 280zx turbo sit for 5 years with a tank in it, didn't do a thing, but it was fuel injection and a sealed tank (gas cap sealed air tight) where you had to flip the locking lever up to break the seal to take the cap off..

POOF!!! is ebear's specialty. Look out!

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 12:58 AM

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my daughter a 300zx back in the early 90s,what a fun car,yet another car i would have liked to restore.I'm currently storing a 1994 SAAB 900SE with turbo that i'm knocking around putting a new motor in(working on finding out what happened to this motor first)its a fast car to.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 1:13 AM

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Sounds like fun.

I really like the Saab 900 Turbo's. Very fast and handle great. My son and I built him a 240 sx up for drifting. It was fun, I was really shocked at how little most of the kids really knew about building cars these day.

I grew up turning wrenches on my cars for street racing and before that on my older brothers cars. These days it seems all they know is how to tow or drive it to a shop for someone else to work on it...

Hell, I have a 1969 1/2 302 with Windsor 2 bbl Heads on it, 3/4 cam pop ups and Edelbrock 650 cfm carb on it. Oh and Headmens with Hush Thrush Turbo mufflers in boxes on a shelf...

It's a FORD, but, eh why not. I'm a Mopar freak though. 2 RoadRunners 69 and 70, 3 Superbees 68 and 2- 70's over the years... wish I had the 68 Bee still though...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 38 weeks ago, 7:57 PM

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mmmm, Refried Beans !!

.... LOL

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 38 weeks ago, 11:38 AM

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refried beans

and a sleeping bag. That WILL keep you warm. o_o

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LOL

I don't think I EVEN want to know about that one. LOL.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 8:17 AM

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That was seafoam,, I was talking about and you guys knew it already, sorry. But I am so nastalgic, I bought the first of 500 Pontiacs WS^ w/ram air and LS-1 Vette motor, in 99' I still have my baby and only just turned 40,000 miles on her. I ordered it a year in advance and they had a modified Vette chassis for the LS-i and ram air in Kentucky and then sent it to canada for placement of ram-air pontiac ws6 body you know firebird/ transam. I was lucky because I guy I know worked for James Pontiac and gave me a headsup on it way before they mass produced any. But they did not make much anyway that year, like 1502 he says. But mine is a beauty and a screamer. I have been offered 20,000.00 at 4 dealerships to advertise more hot cars and whatever. I was thinking about trading or selling for new 2ss camaro, but decided to keep the baby now. Then got involved with the pigs and let it slide. Got me thinking again though. When I do, I just have to start it and punch the 424HP's in it and I am satisfyed again. The amazing thing is the faster you go the better the ram air kicks in, and it loves Cold air the best. I know I came in late and hurting. Randy check your inbox for crying out loud! JLC

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I checked it out last night. It is a troy-bilt with a briggs and stratton engine, 8550 starting watts and 5550 continuous. It does have a fuel on/off valve, but naturally, it was left on. I'll see if I can get it fired up this weekend on it's own. If not, I'll try seafoam.

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762, 150KW is a big unit. Your are looking at 140 amps or a little less (@ 110). Look at your largest electric items - stove, clothes dryer, well water pump. That gen would power (perhaps almost) all three at once. That's not going to be necessary. Everything else in the house is minimal. I would reconsider the size of your gen. Also, I would cast my vote with Vaq. Convert a gas unit to propane. 308, I would drain the tank & rebuild the carb. I used to buy & sell bikes. Most had been sitting for a long time. After a few frustrating trys to get them running then having to rebuild the carbs, I quit trying. I'de rebuild the carbs first off. Not all that expensive unless you are talking about a CBX!

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