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4 years 29 weeks ago, 3:43 AM

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M4 vs. AR15 vs. M16 ?

From what I have read, these are all pretty much the same gun. Can someone key in on this and direct me to a website or discussion that goes more into depth regarding this?

From what I remember, I think the M4 can be semi-auto,select fire (3round burst.) or full auto. The AR15 can only be semi-auto, and the M16 was full auto, but much heavier.

I'm sure I will get flamed for this post, but hey, I gotta start somewhere right?

4 years 29 weeks ago, 11:36 AM

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Weve got some flamers alright, but for the most part as long as you stand up straight don't drop the soap etc. you'll be fine.. well actually we have this one guy ebear who.. Will let that go as we don't wana scare you off.. yet. Most of the regulars here are vets, a few LE and retired LE and Military, so as Sam said if we don't know we just make stuff up.
My guess is you will find a lot of bright people on this site, and a lot of humor, no question is silly, we old timers have been around guns most of our life, but had the same ones at one time or another.
As for Eugen Stoners little rifle.. briefly, and believe me there are some AR fanatics here who can, and will give you chapter and verse on every model. The M-4 is simply the final evalution of the M-16, shorter and with the CAR stock, but pretty similar to the M-16 (which actually did have select fire) the 15 is simply the civilian version (semi auto only) of the 16..

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 6:25 PM

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Differences

AR-15 is the generic term for the civilian version of the M16 family of rifles. The M16 was the first .223 rifle to be adopted by all the services, followed by the M16A1,A2,A3, and A4. M4 is just a shorter version of the M16A2, with short barrel, and collapsible stock. The M16 and M16A1 are select fire, safe semi and auto (SSA). The M16A2 is select fire safe semi and burst (SSB). The M4 and M16A4 are select fire (SSB) with removeable carrying handle and rail system, the M16A3 and M4A1 are select fire (SSA) with removeable carrying handle and rail system. There are civilian versions out called M4, and a judge ruled it a generic term after a suit between Colt and Bushmaster. Hope this helped a bit. I could go into more detail, but I don't want to go back to my old "book-length post" self.

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 6:27 AM

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AR= Automatic Rifle trial number 15

M16 Military trial number 16

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 6:56 PM

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I might have a need for a few more.

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 6:58 PM

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I haven't sold any more. Apparently, the people of Bisbee, AZ have no need for BUIS. I didn't realize how many artsy fartsy fag liberals live in Bisbee. It's astounding.

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 6:59 PM

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And you have how many?

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 7:03 PM

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I have 5 or 6, plus

the one out of the package I used for the photograph.

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 7:07 PM

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55.00 shipped right

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4 years 29 weeks ago, 7:11 PM

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Correct, Nitris

yep

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