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6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:04 PM

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Hey Snake This is not about weapons but can you shed some light on the topic of the new highway we hear about that is going from Mexico to Canada. I have heard that they are trying to make a North American Alliance like the Euro even with a one currency policy and no border checks or passports between countries.

Got any info?

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:10 PM

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highway

it isnt so much as a highway as they want to allow trucking to run easier between all three countries it should be easier between can and the usa but not mexico they come here and buy junk worn out trucks that aint allowed on the road here anymore and haul them to mexico and use them there they wanna run these trucks thru our country? forget about it they cant speak english or read signs eather i dont want someone like this killin my wife and four kids on the highways because of some bs law nafta and cafta have already cost many americans their jobs

6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:14 PM

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trucks

i know first hand because as a heavy diesel mechanic having worked on large fleets all the worn out bent and broken stuff gets bought by mexican shipping companies and hauled away to be patched togethor to haul freight

6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:19 PM

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I have

Heard some about it. Bad stories though. Somthing like when they build it they are forcing people off there land. I support the idea of uninting people as one but it pisses me off that they have to build a damn road and force people off there land that could very well been in there family for decades or more.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:22 PM

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land

land is only one of the concerns u have to have jobs to pay for land and land taxes this aint nuthin more than taking more us jobs out of this country

6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:49 PM

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I agree

I agree

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:58 PM

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Also heard that a lot of farming is going into corn production for ethanol instead of food it would be bad enough they take land for a highway but to use corn for fuel instead of food seems a bit stupid to me.

And a new currency called the amero or something like that.

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:07 PM

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greasypaw, I found a new political party over here called The Liberty and Democracy Party they seem to have a rep in every state and a bit of an affiliation with the SSAA. Their policy is about more lenient gun laws and other things so I will give it a go and let you know how things progress.

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:09 PM

Anonymous

politics

there u go the only way to change things is to get involved like i'm trying here too

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:08 PM

Anonymous

fuel

there is not enough farming ground in the whole us to grow enough corn for fuel i dont know what u know about the ethanol process its basically making moonshine but the yield for any given amount of corn is 14% that means that from a 50 pound bag of corn u get alot of waste or cow feed never heard of the amero

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:15 PM

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SSAA

look under political and legal there is a guy in there calls himself SSAA hes from ur neck of the planet private message him

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:20 PM

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mex can us

where did u hear about this stuff and the amero down there? the internet ? is so list the website please

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:31 PM

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mex can us

it is crap like this that our money grubbin politicians try to sneak by us citizens in the interest of big business and windfall profits the big gets bigger the small man gets smaller

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:37 PM

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greasypaws wrote:
it is crap like this that our money grubbin politicians try to sneak by us citizens in the interest of big business and windfall profits the big gets bigger the small man gets smaller

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/rumors-of-a-super-highway/
read some of the responses at this site or just google "mexican american canadian superhighway" you will find all the sites you want.

apparently the Amero$ is going to be equivelant to the Euro$.

8.July 30th,
2007
8:04 pm NAFTA and FTAA were the preconditions for the North American Alliance, which will naturally grow into the United State of the Americas.

It is the only way the Americas will be able to compete economically against all of Asia and the rapidly growing power of the European Union.

The Euro is working towards replacing the American Dollar as the unit of international exchange.

The only way to match these world powers is to grow more powerful than just the USA, more powerful than just North America, but the Americas must Fully Embrace the Power they have: Control over 1/2 of the Earth.

The United State of the Americas plan builds upon our existing prosperity and promotes the strength and freedoms that all Americans should enjoy.

The joining of all of the Americas is a historical moment in all of Human History - the first time one group of people join together to form one family that spans 1/2 the globe.

Support the United State of the Americas,
write your congressmen and women telling them
you look forward to using the new Amero,
getting rid of the old Canadian Dollars, American Dollars, Mexican Pesos, etc etc.

Free travel among all the member states,
reduced tarrifs and lower taxes, with streamlined business practices promise a better future for all of us and of our children.

VOTE YES for the United State of the Americas.

— Posted by OnePeople

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:40 PM

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new york times article

boy if this passes say goodbye to the U.S. Constitution and hello to the New World Order as they would say it is for the better of the member countrys but it aint better for the workin man ok that does it send in snake lol

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:41 PM

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Bush Plans Super Highway From Mexico to Canada
According to Human Events Online, while we are all fretting about illegal immigration, quietly but systematically, the Bush Administration is advancing the plan to build a huge NAFTA (North America Free Trade Association) Super Highway, four football-fields-wide, through the heart of the U.S. along Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Tex., to the Canadian border north of Duluth, Minnesota. Good grief. Talk about globalization (and loss of American jobs) at it’s absolute worst.

Once complete, the new super highway will allow containers from the Far East to enter the United States bypassing the Longshoreman’s Union in the process. The Mexican trucks will drive straight into the heartland of America by crossing the border in FAST lanes, checked only electronically by the new “SENTRI” system. The first custom stop will be at a new facility in KANSAS CITY.

Construction is scheduled to start next year. Dozens of U. S. government agencies, state agencies and scores of non-government agencies are working behind the scenes to build the new NAFTA Super Highway. There are also plans afoot to create the North American Union (the equivalent of the European Union) as the logical next step in the loss of our independence and economic freedoms.

The Super Highway is the brainchild of NASCO (North American SuperCorridor Coalition, Inc.), which claims to be a “non-profit organization dedicated to developing the world’s first international, integrated and secure. Multi-modal transportation system along the international Mid-Continent Trade and Transportation Corridor to improve both the trade and competitiveness and quality of life in North America.” Carefully note that the good ol’ USA is not mentioned in that marketing blurb. NASCO has received $2.5 million in earmarks from the U. S. Department of Transportation to plan the highway.

Read the entire article at: http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=14965

North American Union - A Top Goal of Secretary of Commerce

Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez has declared advancing the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America to one of his top goals, writing in a letter archived on the Department of Commerce website that “I have made the SPP one of my top priorities and will utilize the talents and expertise of the people across the Department of Commerce to ensure the SPP is a success.”

Secretary Gutierrez next laid out an explanation of how “security” and “prosperity” fit together, using language that carefully replaced reference to the United States of America to language embracing the concept of “North America” as an economic and political reality.

Secretary Gutierrez enters the discussion by bragging about the importance of the role he is assigned to play:

Organizationally, I am jointly responsible for the economic, or prosperity, component of the SPP, with my Canadian counterpart, Minister of Industry David Emerson, and my Mexican counterpart, Secretary of Economy Fernando Canales. Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff, jointly with his Canadian and Mexican counterparts, is responsible for the security component. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, jointly with her Canadian and Mexican counterparts, will ensure that the two components are integrated and that the SPP advances our strong relations with Mexico and Canada.

Working groups rewriting U.S. administrative laws in areas ranging from e-commerce, to steel policy, to energy policy, to aviation control, to border crossing policy, to environment (to mention just a few) are arguably creating the legal infrastructure for a regional government to emerge by administrative fiat.

Yet, there is no provision in the U.S. Constitution that justifies the executive branch to rewrite U.S. administrative law without formulating a treaty that must be submitted to the Senate for ratification by a two-thirds vote. These are the cold realities Secretary Gutierrez and SPP.gov seek to side step with their reassuring “security” and “prosperity” platitudes.

Our Government is Erasing Our Borders

In line with the push to create the North American Union (NAU), the federal government is slowly but surely erasing our borders.

It began in 1993, with an expansion of the "La Paz Agreement" between the United States and Mexico. Bill Clinton issued Executive Order 12904 in 1994, which created the Border Environment Cooperation Commission, to oversee development in "Border Region XXI," a region 62-miles wide on either side of the U.S./Mexico border. This little-known agreement, a side deal in the much-touted North America Free Trade Agreement, was a precursor to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, born in March 2005.

Recently we gave been alerted to the Transportation Super-Highway from Southern Mexico to Kansas City (and eventually to Canada), which will virtually eliminate border security and thousands of American jobs. Government agencies are ignoring the plight of the thousands of businesses and farms that will be seized under Eminent Domain to accomplish this project.

At the root of the problem is an evolving concept of what America is, or was, or should be. For nearly a century, America led the world in freedom and prosperity, not because government decided what is best for America, but because a free people decided what government could, and could not do.

Somewhere along the way, the people got too busy earning a living, or watching ball games, or shopping, or vacationing, or getting rich off government projects, so that the idea of limiting government initiatives fell out of favor. Most of America seems perfectly content to let government do whatever it wants. Aside from complaining, there is little evidence that the majority of Americans care enough about what America is becoming, to do the work necessary to return government to the people.

Consider this: per capita income in the U.S. is $41,800; in Canada, $34,000; in Mexico, $10,000. Were these three economies "homogenized," as is the goal of the trade agreements and the Security and Prosperity Partnership, the per capita income of all three nations would be $28,000.

Once these agreements erase our borders, America will be nothing more than a member of the North American Union, with only a fading memory of glories past.

People will not look forward to posterity, who never look backward to their ancestors. (Edmund Burke 1729-1797)
6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:44 PM

Anonymous

info

thanks rayzor i'll be researching this more and sharing with people everywhere it aint ur fault but i feel like someone just pissed in my cornflakes

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:47 PM

Anonymous

Greasypaws is right

Post a link.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:50 PM

Anonymous

links

he did just read thru the whole forum and tell other people about this too the more that know the better

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:48 PM

Anonymous

politics

you know it just amazes me what people in other countries hear about things here in the US no wonder they think we are infidels damn and i even consider myself politically aware doesnt this bother anyone else?

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:52 PM

Anonymous

rayzor

give this guy a gold star for telling us about this thanks again guy

6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:54 PM

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Georgia/Russia

i suppose we cant complaint too much in our world

http://standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Pics_of_Day/080810.pic.of.day.html

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 10:58 PM

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russia

wow man i dont even know what to say other than them goddamn assholes

6 years 10 weeks ago, 5:45 AM

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The Free Market

Honestly I have to disagree with most of you here.

The free market is a wonderful thing and is what is responsible for all the luxuries that we have today. The more free a country is the more prosperous and wealthy its inhabitants are.

Nafta, while not perfect have brought more prosperity to the US than not.

I have no sympathy for union jobs that get lost as a result of free trade, they have lobbied themselves out of a job. And ALL of us are richer for having free trade that enables a product to be made more cheaply elsewhere.

NAFTA is not perfect in that there are restrictions. Free trade should be unconditional and unilateral.

As for the Amero or the Dollar. They are both fake currencies. The US dollar is a product of the Federal reserve that devalues every year. It is a tax on all those that hold their wealth in it. That is to say that it is a tax on the middle class and the poor.

The very rich put their money in stocks and other wealth, not in dollars (or any other currency).

The Federal Reserve note is only used because the government forbids private competing currencies. I would much rather use gold, or some other currency that retains its value.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 9:28 AM

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agree

well lets see here yes the free market is a wonderful thing i believe in freedom myself as far as nafta here in washington we had a huge timber based economy and no these were not union jobs but real bust ass work hard jobs that after nafta passed companies like weyerhauser and boise cascade went well hell logs are cheaper in canada hmm lets see now. loggers to include truck drivers and cutters and all the rest aint union these people didnt want nuthin to do with unions when the gold standard was removed here our money was no more than a paper check that no one could gaurantee and i am with u on the gold or precious metal currency

6 years 10 weeks ago, 11:12 AM

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Georgia/Russia

Georgia - Russia ordered a halt to military action in Georgia on Tuesday, after five days of air and land attacks that sent Georgia's army into headlong retreat and left towns, military bases and homes in the U.S. ally smoldering. Georgia insisted that Russian forces were still bombing and shelling.

Russia has accused Georgia of killing more than 2,000 people, mostly civilians, in the separatist province of South Ossetia. The claim couldn't be independently confirmed, but witnesses who fled the area over the weekend said hundreds had died.

Many Georgians also have been killed in the fighting. The overall death toll was expected to rise because large areas of Georgia were still too dangerous for journalists to enter and see the true scope of the damage.

U guys see wee are pulling out of Iraq and going to Russia.....I HATE THE DAMN RUSSIAN ARMY.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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we are not pulling out of iraq

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
6 years 10 weeks ago, 11:38 AM

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Sorry to dissagree

But i heard somthing about pulling out of Iraq little by little. I heard it on FOX news a few days ago.

6 years 10 weeks ago, 2:23 PM

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the media

never trust what u hear on the news from those leftist communist hippie leaflickin panty waist bed wetters

6 years 10 weeks ago, 2:30 PM

Anonymous

Dude

That was harsh. hope u wasnt talking a bout me...lol

6 years 10 weeks ago, 2:39 PM

Anonymous

all the above

if you were any of the above i dont think you would be on this site

6 years 10 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

Anonymous

greasypaws

just messin with ya so whats ur take on the highway greasypaws

6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:17 PM

Anonymous

highway

sorry had to take a nap the highway is a joke these people dont want u and i to be free and have jobs they want to give everything that us and the canadians have to mexico and you know that because canadians arent leaving their country as fast as they can and we arent either so that kinda narrows it down then dont it heres a math problem for you: what do you get when you merge two well to do countries with a third world country? a well to do mexico and to hell with everyone else

6 years 10 weeks ago, 5:41 PM

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wow

wow

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 5:43 PM

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wow?

thats it? i thought you'd have more to say than that

6 years 10 weeks ago, 5:49 PM

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i think im stayin out of this one

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 5:52 PM

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i

i respect that

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:07 PM

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thanks

thanks

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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what am i sayin?

damn canadians.lol

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:36 PM

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canadians

thats the spirit

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:44 PM

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Our friends

But ebear the canadians are supposed to be our friends......

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:39 PM

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i think your a bad influece on me

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:42 PM

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influence

why u gotta put that on me? maybe i'll go on a spree now lol

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:52 PM

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its getting crowded on those streets.lol

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:53 PM

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traffic

cures traffic jams too

6 years 10 weeks ago, 6:55 PM

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poor guy......you should apologize

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:08 PM

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apologize

after you kind sir

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:10 PM

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ok.................im sorry death from above for not liking your joke

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 4:34 PM

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politics

rayzor check this out last night one of the current board members of my local gun club(which from here on will be known as unsc) called me and asked me to run for range officer which means range patrol and scheduling this could be cool for me if i get the position as we allow lots of law enforcement to use our ranges

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:12 PM

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illegal immigration

Everyone concentrates on the problems we"re having in this country lately:illegal immigration,hurricane recovery,alligators attacking people in Florida Not me, I found a solution to the problems. It's a win-win situation: 1. Dig a moat the length of the Mexican Border 2. Send the dirt to New Orleans to raise the level of the levies 3. Put the Florida aligators in the moat along the Mexican Border

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:18 PM

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problem solved

that seems to make since.......but how are we gonna stop the hurricanes?

6 years 10 weeks ago, 7:39 PM

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ALL THE HOT AIR COMING OUT OF GREASYPAWS MOUTH WILL BLOW THEM AWAY....LOLOLOL

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6 years 10 weeks ago, 11:16 PM

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hot air

ok fine if it's hot air i wont be back here till the efuction is over and see where we will be then,take ur ass to the voting station and vote hillary and see what u got! hot air my ass!!!if u wanna talk hot air look at the dems but u talk like i am the goddamn enemy wait till they call this site anti gunslot lolol my ass dems aint no lol matter

5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:21 PM

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rayzor51 wrote:
Hey Snake This is not about weapons but can you shed some light on the topic of the new highway we hear about that is going from Mexico to Canada. I have heard that they are trying to make a North American Alliance like the Euro even with a one currency policy and no border checks or passports between countries.

Got any info?

This is so true... Only law abiding U.S. citizens will have to stop at the border check points in the middle of the state of California in the name of catching illegals...

Is this making any sense yet? heh?

Thank you
5 years 30 weeks ago, 5:26 PM

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My take on this

Since the Mexicans are incapable of running their shit without help, we should go in there, kill them all, and take over the country. There will be no drug problem if there are no people alive to smuggle it.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 5:29 PM

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ebear was right!

you do want to shoot some mexicans!lol

5 years 30 weeks ago, 5:35 PM

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ok

let me get this straight, are you saying that the U.S.A HAS NOTHING to do with any drug cartels in Mexico???? Who do you think is financing the smuggling????Who owns allot of the hotels and resorts sitting smack dab in the middle of drug central???Must be the Polish. huh????lol, Hey remember when We arrested General Norriega out of Panama for selling major drugs???Good thing he was'nt backed by the C.I.A OR HE WOULD,NT HAVE ENDED UP IN PARADISE...OOOPS I MEAN PRISON.

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Of course we have

a part of the responsibility. But Mexico is corrupt, drugs or not. They are a failure. We should kill them all. Hell, all the motivated, athletic Mexicans are already in this country anyway. That's why Mexico doesn't have an Olympic team. Everyone who can run, jump, swim, or climb is already in the US. Hah hah. Great joke.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 6:43 PM

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U.S. police for dead in Mexico. This police officer was stealing police guns and giving them to the Mexican Drug lords. This is just the tip of the Iceberg.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/26/marshal.killed in Mexico/index.html

Good People of United States you must beware of Law enforcement because their are crooked one in every state, city and town in United States.

Hillary Clinton and President Obama both know that Law Enforcement in United States is crooked as they gave hundreds of billions of your tax dollar to the Mexican President.

I have nothing against the Mexican president because he is honest about the crooked ways of Mexico. Unlike American leaders who all claim everything is fine and dandy.

Thank you
5 years 30 weeks ago, 6:55 PM

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The U.S. Government and the Mexican government are blaming Americans for all the guns in Mexico.

Why doesn't the Mexican people put border patrols and check all truck entering Mexico?

To date you can freely drive into Mexico and you will not even be inspected.

think about that...

Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, the former lieutenant governor of Maryland and daughter of late U.S. Sen. Robert F. Kennedy has her head up her butt and is blaming all gun owners in America.. She fails to mention that anyone can bring anything to Mexico across the U.S. Mexico border and you will never be checked to see what the heck you are bringing to Mexico.

I am very surprise Americans are just complacent with Kathleen Kennedy statements..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/03/26/kennedy.townsend.guns/index...

It's just a matter of time before they ban your constitutional rights in the name of law enforcement..

This is exactly what happened in Germany during world war two... They took the guns away from a group of people so they could not defend themselves in the name of law enforcement.

Thank you

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