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5 years 30 weeks ago, 5:32 AM

Nutty Basterd

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I've been getting into these "milsurp" guns a lot lately. I have 2 Mosins(91-30 and a M44) and a Steyr-Mannlicher M95. Some people count certain SKSs and even some milsurp sights have AK stuff. I don't really count those. Back to the point, first off what do yall think about these archaic things in general, second do you find that their usually cheap price is overly alluring, third do you think they're just another way of getting around buying a name brand rifle for whatever purpose, fourth are you a milsurp owner and if so what do you have/recommend.

5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:20 PM

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I happen to like it, I think the number in which they were made create the price. The fact that they were used by the military means you got a 75% chance of getting something fun to shoot if not to own for nostalgia reasons. Also, who does like have a shit load of weapons anyway. I know you have all read the Hi-Point thread, I might buy one just to have another pistol and if I really sucks that bad then I will have a $100 throwing star in the shape of a gun!! Not to mention that I dont think theres anyone that can honestly say they would not like to own an SKS(any country) or an AK-47 or even the M1 Garand just to have in there collection. However, I dont think that to own one you have to buy the same manufacturer as the original, as long as it is the "same".

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:34 PM

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milsirp

I am a C&R collector and i have a few Nagants (91/30), M38, M44's, a Steyr, a lot of different variants of SKS's. The thing about these are that they are of historic value. I like them because they have personality, each one is it's own. Sure most of them are clunky and don't have the accuracy of todays sniper rifles, but they were the best that militaries had to offer at the time and they served very well. Just wondering why you wouldn't count AK's and SKS's? The AK is the most used military rifle on the planet and the SKS (which was made to replace it) is one of the most widely used milsurps. Personally i like them all. The price on most like the M44 which you can generally get for 69.00-99.00 is very alluring. All you have to do is strip the cosmoline and shoot. I don't think the general buyer is just getting around buying a name brand, it's the cool-ness factor. I'm sure there are a lot of people who cant afford a Weatherby to hunt deer once a year also. That is a good question though. I would like to know how many are buying them just because they are cheap and are in abundance, vs. how many just like the history and the military background.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:40 PM

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I thought the AK replaced the SKS?

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:48 PM

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AK

The AK was in 1947. The first designs of the SKS was in the late 40's which didn't start circulating until the 50's. Then the Chinese, Yugoslavs, Vietnames, Albanians, and whoever else started in the late fifties. There are still countries who manufacture them.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:57 PM

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AK

Correction...... Simonov did manufacture the original SKS in 1945. When the AK was designed in '47 they were cheaper to build because they were stamped and cheaper to produce for their troops. Although they did still keep the SKS for their honor guard. I did however take more time to get the AK to the other countries that used the SKS.
Gotta keep my facts straight..........

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 11:58 PM

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sks date

was first issued in 1943 but due to manufacturing time and expense werent seen till after ww2 (go to wikipedia and enter sks)

5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:59 PM

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Oh, OK thanks

Oh, OK thanks

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 3:15 PM

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milsurp

i personally love milsurp rifles of all kinds, for the same reasons FreedomMilitaria stated. they have historic value and are cheap and fun to shoot... whats not to like. the only downside is trying to find ammo on some odd calibers, and a lot of the older surplus ammo is corrosive. besides that, i think its cool to own a weapon that was actually used in WW2 etc... right now i own 5 nagants, 2 enfields, 3 mausers, a garand, 3 sks's, a MAS, and an ak (but i bought it new, so its not surplus). im planning on getting a 1903 when i can. I think i'll continue to buy milsurp rifles as long as they are imported and available.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 4:07 PM

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Sks then Ak

The SKS was used as the main rifle until mid to late 50's as production had started on them. The cost of outfitting the army is what kept the sks going. I didn't really count the ak just because the ones civilians can buy aren't really military, they're just semi. Don't get me wrong though, I have one and want more! Can anyone recommend any milsurps?

5 years 30 weeks ago, 12:01 AM

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short magazine lee enfield aka .303 brit the enfields are great inexpensive guns that you can find modern hunting ammo for plus there are aome aftermarket accessories available thru sites like www.cheaperthandirt.com

5 years 30 weeks ago, 6:42 AM

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cool

thanks greasy

5 years 30 weeks ago, 10:16 AM

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milsurp

i like mausers, nagants, and enfields. they are all great bolt rilfes. if you want semi auto, i wiuld recommend a garand

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 11:33 AM

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i love surplus i dont think it's getting around a named brand gun. some of these guns or some of the best made. example the M1 i'l take it over my remington any day. plus like freedom said they have personality. i can shoot my yugo sks for have the price anyone can shoot there AR15 at 4.86 a box from academy

5 years 30 weeks ago, 2:21 PM

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What about new ones?

What do yall think about the new ones? I'm talking about like new M1's made current by current manufacterer's. There's even current production Tommys right?

5 years 30 weeks ago, 2:28 PM

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I love the current

I love the current production M1A's from springfield. they're a little pricey, but really durable and great rifles. I have the scout, and its probably my favorite rifle. I always wanted to get the socomII if I can ever save up enough money.

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5 years 30 weeks ago, 6:25 AM

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Mil-Surplus

I need to get an M1D Garrand yet, but I do love my HK G3. Military Surplus is a great way to get into Firearms and a little history to boot.

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