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The family says its been passed down from father to son since the 1700s. It looks like it was a flint lock that was converted over to caps.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 7:20 PM

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Nice looking piece CT. I sure don't have any helpful info though.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 7:25 PM

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It looks like a kentucky rifle but the stock only gose about a foot down the barrel, and kentucky rifles go all the way to the muzzle. I have not seen any other rifle like this.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 7:30 PM

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Any idea on the caliber? Does it have a rifled barrel or smooth bore? I'm guessing rifled but if it was a converted flint it could be smooth.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 7:43 PM

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It has rifling. It has a jug barrel, I think thats what its called? and its a little over 5 feet

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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mentioned it.
Here's what I found:

A method of choking called ‘jug choking’ has long been used to improve shotgun performance - by enlarging the bore for a short length just behind the muzzle. The shot column expands into this area and is then constricted again at the muzzle. Thus, a fixed choke shotgun with fairly open chokes could be converted to a tighter choked option by jug choking. This would not interfere with the original muzzle configuration

http://www.ssaa.org.au/stories/shotguns-a-beginners-guide-to-shotgun-cho...

Interesting, huh?

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 8:06 PM

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Can a rifle have a jug barrel? cause it has rifling. the jug part came from when my father tried looking up info on it when he got it long time ago.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 3:39 PM

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'net refered to shotguns.
Really interesting how it works, I'd never have thunk LOL!
BTW, which coal train is your handle picked up from, N.S., U.P. or ??

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 6:18 PM

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Being from WV and living near tracks growing up, its just something I picked up. I love trains almost as much as I love my guns. Plus Coal Trains help keeps the lights on:)

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 2:37 AM

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When the Civil War broke out in 1861, neither the North nor the South was prepared to engage in a major war. Decades of relative peace had left limited stockpiles of small arms-the rifles and handguns carried by individual soldiers. As tens of thousands of men volunteered to fight alongside their friends and neighbors, those arms stockpiles were quickly exhausted.

Purchasing agents for the Union and Confederacy began buying up every European rifle they could find and shipping them back to American ports. As a result, many volunteers during the first two years of the Civil War found themselves using a wide variety of rifles, including antiquated weapons dating back to the War of 1812. Meanwhile, American rifle and gun manufacturers--Sharps, Colt, Remington, and the United States armory at Springfield-quickly expanded rifle production. The 1855 invention of the rifled barrel--which had grooves running down the barrel that caused the bullet to spin as it fired out of the end-quickly made all smoothbore rifles obsolete.

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2 years 34 weeks ago, 6:54 AM

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Coaltrain, your rifle is DEFINITELY Civil War era, and I think French. Can you give me some more information, like caliber, etc? I might be able to tell you more then.

2 years 34 weeks ago, 9:55 AM

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rifling work done in the early 1500s in Austria but was not widely used until the 19th century but still could have been, depends on who built it and where.
Looks like a nice wall hanger due to it's condition, unless it's exceptionally rare or is a historically significant piece it's value is not going to be much.

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