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5 years 11 weeks ago, 5:55 PM

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new member from utah

To be honest I have never fired a handgun and thought I never would, all that changed when I came home the other day and the front door was wide open..... Needlessly to say I am now looking for a good home defense/ccw gun. Any guidance on this topic is much appreciated thanks.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:21 PM

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First things first....welcome...ok now the nice shit to the side....lol My suggestion is you go to your local gunrange and pay about 135.00 for a beginners class. They will show you how to shoot,break down clean AND pick out the right gun for you....We can all tell you which is our favorite gun , but it all boils down to which gun feels the best in your hand....ps...Glocks are ugly guns!!!

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:10 PM

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By the way it was ebear who broke into your house, he told everyone in PM.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:12 PM

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I SMELLED COOKIES BAKING

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:19 PM

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thought he was there.........................................another sick freak....................Anyhow Oozerat were here to help.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:20 PM

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Welcome

You will be able to get good advice which will help you decide...where did this happen? I mean what city did ebear break into a house?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:22 PM

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Welcome Oozerat

First off.....ebear is just jealous of the Glocks looks! He's right in taking a class and shooting several guns till you find the right one. He should know....... he keeps buying them, and selling them, then buying another one! LOL

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:23 PM

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I

was selling Amway and the Gerbel let me in?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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oozerat, he's right, though. Take a class. get trained. It's not enough to buy a firearm. You have to learn the mindset. NRA gives some good courses on safety, and proper technique. Do that first. Is there a gun club or range near you?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:31 PM

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Oozerat

Welcome to the site. I would recommend a .357 mag revolver. You can fire .38's in it to. two guns in one. Thats my humble apinion.

P.S. The reason ebear hates Glocks is due to they almost ruiend his relationship with runawaygun. lol.

Any ways welcome aboard and enjoy.

5 years 11 weeks ago, 8:34 PM

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poor thing suffered for a moment until runaway removed it with his teeth.............................another story told to everyone via PM.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:34 PM

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glocks

I agree glocks are very ugly. Thanks for the quick responses. U can keep the cookies ebear but could I get all my other stuff back?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:36 PM

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There will be others to responed so check back here often.

5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:40 PM

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gerbil , gerbel

who gives a rats ass!!!!!This poor man from Utah...was robbed and asked us for advise....me being the humanitarium that i am, felt compelled to help him....but all i got was accusations and innuendo ....i feel bismirched and morosse and at the same time heartbroken that Runaway would air our dirty filthy nasty laundry via pm's.....where was i ? oh yeah.....Glocks are the Devils Puke!!!!!

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:43 PM

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And yes it was a rats ass to start with.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:47 PM

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well yes

thats what got me in the front door....but stll;.....

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:48 PM

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as long as you stay10 feet from me. lol

5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:50 PM

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can you

dress up like Jennifer Anston?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:54 PM

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ebear: Sure I can

if you give me your sundress.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:56 PM

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im still

trying to get the stains out!!!! DNA is a bitch!!!!

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 7:10 PM

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monica lewinsky pivit girl again, wait.....................runaway was the pivit girl right? He's wearing the dress.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 7:15 PM

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oozerat

Like snake said. 357 mag.
the 38s are cheaper and less punishing to pracice with, and nothing will make you a better shot than practice. 1000 rounds with improper techique will still be more accurate than 100 rounds with professional training.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 8:02 PM

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one thought

go to the store and about all you see in ammo is 9mm
Luger. Ammo shortage my ass Obama is behind it

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 6:57 PM

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ammo shortage

All the stores around here have everything but 9mm theres only 1 place i have been that has it consistantly.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 9:16 PM

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between the rat and gerbil fucking, and god knows what is being done to NITRIS dog..BTW welcome OOZeRat

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 9:20 PM

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 11:41 PM

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whew!

so this whole trust thing worked,seems like a very solid sight,i look forward to putting it thru it's paces.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 9:32 PM

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what

the clap?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 11:10 PM

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OozeRat

Welcome to the site. I agree 100% with ebear's first comment. I believe that you should go to a shooting range (with knowledgeable people) that rents guns so that you can handle every sort of gun, see how they feel in your hand, and decide which ones are most comfortable for you. Then you can rent one or more of them, and go to the shooting area, with someone knowledgeable about the guns who can walk you through the safe use of them. I stress SAFETY. You don't want any accidental discharge or the unintentional harming of anyone else. You'll have to pay for the hourly rental of the guns, plus buy at least one box of ammunition for them. By so doing, you can find out if you like a revolver or a semiauto best, and which one you can shoot the best. Something to think about is the reason that you're interested in buying a gun. Is it personal protection, protection of your property, protection of your family, and do you want to get into recreational shooting as well as protection (LOTS of fun and enjoyment can be derived from the shooting sports, and also from purely recreational shooting)? You said that you're from Utah. Both HamsterW and myself are too. He's in Salt Lake City, I'm in Payson. i'd be glad to talk with you if you'd like, and I'm sure that he would too. Send me a PM if you'd like to pursue this.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:02 AM

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Protection

I am interested in something for protecting all of the above. many of my co-workers have guns they have offered to let me try out, we're tryin to find a day where we can all go to the range or perhaps out to the middle of no where by utah lake. I do know the basics of gun safety and have shot rifles and shotguns, but have not taken the opportunity to shoot a handgun.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 11:14 PM

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 11:52 PM

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Dont bend over?

Will ebear try to shove a gerbil up my ass if i do?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:11 AM

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naw ebear lets the new members slide.. your gona enjoy the site, were a bunch of regulars that are mostly normal... least we have normal moments.. ok .. we have times that were pretty sure were mostly normal.. and ebear does look real cute in the sundress..

On a serious note.. Yep you need a weapon, and training.. neither is an issue.. what is required is more input from you... single or wife.. This is a real factor.. if theres a women involved you may want to go with a revolver.. the 38/357 thought earlier is a consideration.. as is the price of a revolver.. Find a range close..take the wife, rent a 38 and a 9mm (auto) these are not the most efficiant man stopers, but for a novice shooter have the best mix of recoil/stoping power.. see which one you wife prefers...if shes comfortable with an auto great.. otherwise go the 38 route... Just do it... and remember ... i forgot what it is your to remember, but damn it son remember it.. oh and welcome to the site..

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:43 AM

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the wife

I am married but the misses wants nothing to do with guns, she thinks I am over-reacting, but there's some scary stuff goin on in the area right now. I'm planning on going the 48/9mm auto route, i've heard they're adequate if u use +p ammo, but I won't make a final decision until i do aome shooting and take the ccw permit class and probably a beginner class at a range like ebear recommended, maybe he would like to borrow one of my wife's sundresses?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:48 AM

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instructor will tell you that the easiest thing to do is develop bad habits, the hardest is to break those habits.
If you can, as most of the people on this board seems to think, rent guns in your area, start with .22 and get good with it. Your nuts won't shrivel up and no one at the range will call you a pussy.
You can get a S&W .50 later if you need a cannon.
Unless you're having to take down a 300 pound looney on PCP a .38spl or 9mm will do the job.
Your first interest should be learning how much fun shooting can be without suffering recoil before you're ready for it.
If Utah issues either restricted or unrestricted licenses you should be prepared to take the concealed carry class with a semi-auto for the unrestricted license.
Wives don't always understand so smile and take her out to dinner anyway :<)

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:57 AM

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.22's

I will most likely go with the ppl on this board and rent a .22 and take a beginner shooting class I am just exploring all options as budget is a major issue. I dunno about an S&W .50 I was thinking more like the desert eagle ;) seriously .40 is probably the biggest I would ever go with unless i was planning of gettin attacked by bears or if ebear breaks into my house again. Oh and we just got back from dinner. Thanx for all the advice.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:27 AM

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Oooze, if you've never fired a pistol, period. Start small like .22 just to get familiar with how they work and how to get the bullet to where you want it. You can move up to a larger cal almost immediately but really, getting comfortable with a pistol is best done with a small bore.

USE EAR PROTECTION!! huh?

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:42 AM

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Be assured that ear protection is very high in my list since I lost all hearing in one ear from a massive infection when was a kid. would a .32 be ok to start with? I know someone that will let me use theirs, of course he says i should just jump in the deep end and start with a .40. I think he just wants some laughs at my expense.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 12:52 AM

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It's a rotten trick to hand some one a gun they are not ready for.
My uncle handed my aunt a mdl 29 .44 mag. It kissed her between the eyes, left a scar and she NEVER touched another gun.
Get good with a .22 and move up to something a little more formidable, maybe .38 spl.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 1:02 AM

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Good night.

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5 years 11 weeks ago, 7:27 AM

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Oozerat.

9mm is a very good choice for handgun, especially if you plan to carry concealed. As for a combination CCW and home defense, A concealed carry gun is one you use because you can conceal it. It's not necessarily the best choice for use on people, just the best choice you can carry around all day. You said budget is a very big deal, but a good quality Taurus and single shot 12 gauge will cover all the bases. I know, a single shot scattergun isn't the most "tacticool" of weapons out there, but if you hear a bump in the night, you secure yourself and the misses in the bedroom, call the cops, let the intruders know you're armed and the police are on the way. If the bad guy comes in, a 3" mag double ought buck to the chest will probably deter him from further exploration of your home.

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