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5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:32 AM

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So, we are painting ourselves in a corner. NK is testing us, and if they do launch their missile, we will do nothing. I worry that nations around the world who may be on the fence as to whether to push us will take this as a sign of weakness. Obama will be an utter failure as a strong world leader and I think his weakness will reduce our security. Our nation is hated by many around the world who have nothing to live for but hatred. Our nation is not respected, as we have treated our enemies with kid gloves for the past two decades. We may destroy, but then we rebuild. We must be a nation that is feared if nothing else. It is better to be respected, but in the absense of respect, fear will do.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:33 AM

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I disagree, runawaygun

No you don't, you are me. Oh yeah. We suck.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 5:37 AM

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I agree runawaygun

I don't believe we will do anything about "KN" but give them more money and continue to let them export their rocketry and nuclear knowledge. If KS doen't think we will contain KN then the U.S. shouldn't get upset when KS decides to turn the Yalu River into a footbath.
I don't think we will do anything about Iran either. I've already measured logical approach paths Isreal might take to get there. Tough, but they can do it. If they decide turn the darkened sky over Tehran into a glowing morning sun, Hhhuuummmm. In either scenario, the U.S. would have done zero !

(You have to look behind all of that outer space stuff)
5 years 47 weeks ago, 6:14 AM

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United States must stop with it's empty threats towards North Korea.

North Korea knows U.S. is not going to do anything about the launch.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:20 AM

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MannyG

Finally, something we can agree on.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:28 AM

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This is what will

This is what will happen...

North Korea launch missile...

Missile flies over Japan....

Missile flies over U.S. passing California, Texas and when it reaches Washington DC It will explode like fire works...Can you just picture President Obama and Hillary Clinton just staring up as the missile flies over head and commences the firework show?

Then the North Korean President will celebrate that he succeeded having his fireworks over Washington DC as the whole world watched..

Then United States will have less respected than it had before.

The reason I do not address Hillary Clinton as Secretary of State is because she is much more powerful than a Secretary…

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:46 AM

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that this is a rational human being....

5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:49 AM

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I vote for a

rational string bean

clint

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:56 AM

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Clint maybe you need

a high colonic.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:15 AM

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Rational? NOT

Including the physics of the thing. The missile has no such range. End of story. As with most of Manny's ramblings, it is stupid in context. HOWEVER, COMMA....

we (the US of A) have a fleet of Arleigh-Burke Class DDGs stationed in the area as well as a Carrier Strike Group headed by CVN-74 John C. Stennis and Japanese destoyers. The majority of the DDGs have the Aegis defense system which is a complete shield around Japan and the coast. We can, if we want to, shoot that missile down in a heartbeat.

The downside is that China would love to 'witness' such a feat to discern our capabilities, which are formidable. The REAL opposition here is China, not North Korea. They are building a blue water fleet to comete with the US Navy. IF we do it, majority opinion is that we ought to inform the Chinese first.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
5 years 47 weeks ago, 2:56 PM

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North Korea is always doing things like this. To them, it's more of a political tool to get more oil, food and money and less sanctions. A few years ago, they said "oh, look, we can make nukes now" and the US responded with "here's oil, food and money, stop making the nukes". And NK did....for a while. I see the same thing now..."Oh look, we have intercontinental missles". Now, what is the US willing to give them to stop it. In my opinion, it should be a few well placed guided bombs. One on the NK presidential palace. But, that won't happen. I think the US is just sitting around and waiting on the NK "president", can't remember his name right now, to die, just like they were waiting out Castro. But, everytime the US and UN gives in to what really amounts to blackmail, we become weaker and weaker. And Iran, I agree, the US won't do a thing. The Isrealis are the only ones with the balls to do anything about it and given the slightest push, they will.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:45 PM

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North Korea uses this kind of posturing as a diplomatic tool. Here is a quote from Strafor, a private intelligence firm. I can't quote the entire thing because that's against their terms of use. I get a subscription to these guys for $300 per year. But I think these three paragraphs can fall under fair use:

"Despite the consternation and condemnation surrounding North Korea’s planned satellite launch, set for some time between April 4-8, there is little concrete being done to dissuade Pyongyang’s actions, and the potential for additional sanctions following the launch has little real meaning. Barring a significant accident or miscalculation, it seems North Korea’s neighbors and the United States are simply not placing much significance on the launch. Since North Korea’s 2006 missile and nuclear tests, Pyongyang has found it more difficult to raise the stakes. Its policy of creating crises as the starting point for negotiations appears to be losing efficacy, though they do allow Pyongyang to keep moving the red line.

Since the end of the Cold War, when North Korea lost its ability to play between its two traditional sponsors, China and the Soviet Union, Pyongyang has followed a different policy to protect its interests and avoid the regime collapse seen throughout the communist bloc countries. In short, Pyongyang has engaged in a form of self-created crisis diplomacy. It creates security crises that draw attention from its neighbors and the United States, and then extracts economic and political concessions in return for standing back down to the status quo. This has served North Korea well, and the North Korean leadership has far outlived predictions of its imminent demise.

Over time, however, North Korea’s antics have been viewed more and more like the boy who cried wolf, who raised the alarm for something that was not really threatening. Whereas simply the possession of a nuclear reprocessing facility in the late 1990s almost induced the United States to threaten war, Pyongyang’s 2006 nuclear test — which followed a series of missile tests by a few months — brought only a few strong words and some relatively ineffective sanctions. Similarly, the current “crisis” surrounding North Korea’s planned satellite launch has been more words than actions, and even these have toned down as Washington has said it does not intend to intercept the launch, a sentiment echoed by Tokyo (unless parts of the missile appear likely to land on Japanese territory)."

Got http://www.strafor.com for more.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:38 PM

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After North Korea launches it missile then Iran will follow. Hillary Clinton and President Obama would consider allowing Iran launch a test missile over the United States in the name of peace.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:57 PM

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G man

do you have the hots for Hillary? Her name seems to come up quite a bit in your posts

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:02 AM

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I like Hillary

I would like to be the guy she uses to get payback for Bill's intern incident. By the time I got done, she would be laying in the fetal position in the shower, trying to get my smell off of her, beer bottle still stuck in her ass, crying out, "Why me" like Nancy Kerrigan.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 8:14 AM

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Hillary Clinton sex tape 79.95 on every sleezy porn site.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:08 AM

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I would like to be the guy she uses to get payback for Bill's intern incident. By the time I got done, she would be laying exhausted on the bed trying to get my smell on her, crying out, "Damn, you're good. I never knew it could be like this." just like Nancy Kerrigan.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:13 AM

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Okay, schuyler

We could both do her. I get the head, you can have the rest of her. I'll be in the bathroom with my part, just knock if you want to trade up.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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