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7 years 18 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

DollPartzz

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The NRA.

A little while back I posted a question about the NRA it did not go over well, some had a good response others thought I was a troll. The question was The NRA what do you think. Why do some refer to it as Negotiating Rights Away? I saw some negative groups on Facebook that said this as well as "Fuck the NRA" were is the negative commentary coming from, why and what are your thoughts...Today I came across this article.
National Concealed Carry Vote a Sham?July 24, 2009
by Paul Valone
Summary
Laudable though Thune’s goal of national concealed carry may be, understand that the entire exercise was nothing but a sham in which (surprise, surprise) the amendment failed by a vote of 58 – 39. So before gun rights supporters contact the 39 ever-so-brave US Senators (including 20 Democrats) to thank them for supporting the measure, all should understand that its failure was preordained by Democrat Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, and quite probably sanctioned by the NRA.

Plenty of ink (and not a little hot air) has been expended over yesterday’s US Senate vote on the “Thune Amendment” to the National Defense Authorization Act. Introduced by Senator John Thune (R-SD) and much-ballyhooed by the NRA, the amendment would have created national reciprocity between states with concealed carry laws, enabling concealed handgun permit-holders to protect themselves and their families during interstate travel.

(Side note: Sixty votes – for “cloture” – were required for passage rather than the usual 51 due to a threatened filibuster by perennially anti-gun Sen. Charles Schumer. In the gentile land of the US Senate, threats routinely substitute for real action.)

Despite hand-wringing by The Washington Post that “Democrats Fear Defections on GOP Gun Proposal,” rest assured that Harry Reid almost certainly engineered every Democrat vote for or against the measure.

So why did Reid engage in such Vaudeville slight-of-hand? Did he schedule the vote to “show his commitment to gun rights”? After all, he insists his intentions are pure:

“This has nothing to do with electoral politics,” assured Reid spokesman Jim Manley, according to politico.com: “Harry Reid has always supported gun rights and intends to do so in the future.”

Yeah, right. In reality, Reid is vulnerable in his 2010 re-election bid and, consequently, threw the NRA a very small bone.

And what does the NRA get? The appearance of accomplishing something – if not actual passage of the amendment, at least a recorded vote which purports to show who’s “fer ya” and “agin ya.” More action means more NRA members and more money. Read more

Source: Charlotte Gun Rights Examiner

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The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”-Albert Einstein
7 years 18 weeks ago, 4:42 PM

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well the NRA

is quite capable of forecasting decision outcomes and plotting the next move anybody that thinks they are only in it for one move at a time has never played chess.The NRA plays the game very well.
Any gun owner that does not belong to the NRA has no voice,and only clings to the shirt tails of the real men/women doing the work to keep the anti-gunners at bay.Any gun owner that does not belong to the NRA,at least paying the dues, the measley sum of what?35.00 dollars a year is a joke.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
7 years 18 weeks ago, 4:53 PM

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opinions. there are some very good gun owners here who do not like the NRA, but have watch as my little brother and his best friend gary kun have grown up and become qualify expert junior marksmen, qualify both by our gun club and by the NRA. the NRA has very good youth program and our friend gary and ryo's little brother have been treat so very well and so very professionally by the leaders here of the qualifying board of the NRA representatives at our gun club and range. ryo is with you on this one Lucky chan. these are good people who do good work and ryo not like to hear NRA bashing by liberal, moderate or conservative. you got one believer for sure in your friend ryo.

Your friend alway,

LittleDragon

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7 years 18 weeks ago, 6:41 PM

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thanks ryo

The NRA has a great youth program,i agree,their contribution to the protection of the 2nd ammendment is unquestionable,the clout they weild in the political arena is the envy of every lobbying organization in D.C.

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
7 years 16 weeks ago, 8:35 PM

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You don't have to agree with every single thing the NRA says or does, but you should belong to it. With its vast membership & the political involvement of its leadership, we absolutely must back it, because it backs all of us. If you don't agree with some of its policies, write to NRA headquarters & express your opinion - they read all letters. You should also join JPFO, SAF, and CCRKBA. They're all excellent organizations pledged to defend the 2nd Amendment for all of us. We must also be involved as individuals - write, call, email all your elected officials, and write to newspapers & magazines (not just gun magazines, but TIME, Newsweek, US News & World Reports, People, etc. And for God's sake, REGISTER AND VOTE!

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man. (Mark Twain).
7 years 16 weeks ago, 5:03 PM

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ecaman

ecaman wrote:
You don't have to agree with every single thing the NRA says or does, but you should belong to it. With its vast membership & the political involvement of its leadership, we absolutely must back it, because it backs all of us. If you don't agree with some of its policies, write to NRA headquarters & express your opinion - they read all letters. You should also join JPFO, SAF, and CCRKBA. They're all excellent organizations pledged to defend the 2nd Amendment for all of us. We must also be involved as individuals - write, call, email all your elected officials, and write to newspapers & magazines (not just gun magazines, but TIME, Newsweek, US News & World Reports, People, etc. And for God's sake, REGISTER AND VOTE!

I am a member and I do as much as I can for all of our rights especially the 2nd without it there will be no others. Of course I vote...

The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing.”-Albert Einstein
7 years 16 weeks ago, 7:51 PM

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I don't like 'em

I know, the NRA is a powerful lobbying organization, but they are not the staunch supporters they calim to be. They should be emptying their coffers to fund litigation and support for rolling back gun laws. The Dems have flat-out admitted they are not ready for the gun control fight because of what happened to them after they passed the original AWB in '94. The enemy has admitted a weakness, now is the time to exploit that weakness. I admit to not having any proof or even evidence, but I suspect the NRA's higher-ups are accepting supplemental income from the left to hold back.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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