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2 years 50 weeks ago, 11:03 AM

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By Jeremy Pelofsky | Reuters – 1 hr 23 mins ago. WASHINGTON (Reuters) -

The Obama administration on Monday blocked a new Texas law requiring voters to show photo identification before they can cast a ballot out of concerns it could harm some Hispanic voters who lack such identification.

The state law approved in May 2011 required voters to show government-issued photo identification, which could include a driver's license, a military identification card, a birth certificate with a photo, a current U.S. passport, or a concealed handgun permit.

The Justice Department said that data from Texas showed that almost 11 percent of Hispanic voters, just over 300,000, did not have a driver's license or state issued identification card, and that plans to mitigate those concerns were incomplete.

"Hispanic registered voters are more than twice as likely as non-Hispanic registered voters to lack such identification," Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said in a letter to the Texas director of elections outlining the objection.

This is the second state voter identification law blocked by the Obama administration, which earlier objected to a strict new law in South Carolina that it prevented from taking effect. South Carolina then sued in federal court seeking approval of its law.

Under the landmark 1965 Voting Rights Act, certain states like Texas must seek approval from the Justice Department or the federal courts for changes made to state voting laws and boundaries for voting districts.

The Obama administration has already challenged the state's attempt to re-draw congressional districts and that fight is now before the courts. Texas has also sued to get approval for its voter identification law.

Several other states, including Kansas and Wisconsin, have adopted stricter new voter identification laws, arguing that they were necessary to prevent fraud at the ballot box. However some civil rights groups have said that the laws threatened to suppress minority voters.

In Texas, the Justice Department said that potential voters would have to have two other identification documents to get a certificate allowing them to vote, which could require paying expensive fees for copies of legal documents such as birth certificates.

Additionally, nearly one third of the counties in the state do not have offices where potential voters can obtain a driver's license or state identification card and some residents live more than 100 miles away, the Justice Department said.

Efforts to educate voters about the new identification requirements were also incomplete and the state did not submit any evidence of voter impersonation not already addressed under existing state laws, the administration said.

"The state has failed to demonstrate why it could not meet its stated goals of ensuring electoral integrity and deterring ineligible voters from voting in a manner that would have voided this retrogressive effect," Perez said.

The Texas lawsuit for approval of the voter identification law is: State of Texas v. Holder in U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, No. 12-cv-128.

(Editing by Eric Walsh)

2 years 50 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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Obama's boys would block this. Illegal aliens are one of their core demographics.

2 years 50 weeks ago, 11:36 AM

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as non-Hispanic registered voters to lack such identification," Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said in a letter to the Texas director of elections outlining the objection.

Sounds like to me that the "hispanic" population is NOT MOTIVATED to participate.
Perhaps Senor Perez should quit wasting good people's time and money and go give voter motivation classes to his Messcan amigos.

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2 years 50 weeks ago, 11:37 AM

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daisycutter wrote:
as non-Hispanic registered voters to lack such identification," Assistant Attorney General Thomas Perez said in a letter to the Texas director of elections outlining the objection.

Sounds like to me that the "hispanic" population is NOT MOTIVATED to participate.
Perhaps Senor Perez should quit wasting good people's time and money and go give voter motivation classes to his Messcan amigos.

Not likely. It's much easier to bitch and whine until the government comes in to give you your way than to do the right thing in the first place.

2 years 50 weeks ago, 6:45 AM

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Has anyone else noticed how nonsensical that comment Mr. Perez made is? His theory that Hispanic legally registered voters are less likely to have proof of ID is ridiculous. The only reason they wouldn't have proof of ID is if they were here illegally, and if that's the case they shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place! They're trying very hard to derail this election, sounds like they're afraid over there on the left.

2 years 50 weeks ago, 8:44 AM

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Hispanic voters

A couple of comments here. One, I don't think illegals are much into voting and would probably prefer to keep a low profile. Two, if you don't need to show ID whats to stop the Dems from voting in multiple voting places like Acorn folks allegedly did to elect Obama.And three didn;t one state offer to provide vans that woukd go right to your house and make you an ID right on the spot for no charge and were still put down by the DOJ?

2 years 50 weeks ago, 10:15 AM

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I live in a State that has a huge Illegal Population which caters to them for various reasons but in the shadows.

As a matter of fact, Illegals in Florida have a free ride pretty much because they are mostly here working for Sugar Corporations and other Agriculture Entities which is the second largest economic engine in Florida.

Illegal Boys and Girls (children) are smuggled into the US through the US-Mexican Border and shuttled to Florida only to end up in Whore Houses that are setup in everyday subdivision. Clearwater PD busted one of the largest in the State last year as a matter of fact and the problem is growing.

I worked with a few Illegals, though at the time I did not know they were. They had used fake SSN's, had driver licenses, paid rent, had FICA and SS taken out of their checks and had kids in School.

They also voted....

After I left the West Palm area I was speaking with a wife of one of the guys and she told me that her husband had gone home to see his mother who was sick. She wanted me to be a character reference for him. I told her I had nothing but the best wishes for her, the kids and him but there was no way I was going to do squat for him. He needed to apply like everyone else that does it legal and wait his turn and pay his legal fee's if any applied.

Don't fool yourself, there is a huge number of Illegals living here playing like they are Legal and getting away with it and yes, they do Vote. There is a whole cottage industry up and running ensuring they have the ability to do so.

Corporation can bring them in on a work Visa which allows for example, 1 year of work and then loose a contract only to pink slip them. They should have to ensure they are put back across the border, but they don't. They cut them loose and don't do a damn thing leaving it up to an over taxed under manned INS to deal with it. Then they have to up the man power of ICE, HS, BP and any other number of Agencies to attempt to not deal with but attempt to Quell the Tsunami of Illegals who have, are and will setup life in America.

Those who claim "Illegals do the Jobs US Citizens don't want to do" is a pack of shit too. There is not a major Construction site in the State of Florida that does not have more Hispanics working for them on temporary work visas than US Citizens swinging Hammers.

The Largest Reloading Company in Pinellas County Florida has not one Asian, White or Black working for them inside the plant other than the Office Staff of Two and a Single Manager running Production.

Road Construction Contractor crews are made up mostly of Temporary Work Visa holders.

Are there allot of Hispanic Citizens in Florida yes, are there allot of Illegals, without question.

Is anything done about it? When one of them rapes, murders, robs or gets busted on a Felony charge. But beyond that, it is pretty much a none issue in most peoples minds. Especially those who benefit from them being here and who have the connection to keep them here while staying out of trouble for not doing their duty to see they go the hell home when the time comes.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 50 weeks ago, 10:18 AM

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So True

Ishootdaily wrote:
I live in a State that has a huge Illegal Population which caters to them for various reasons but in the shadows.

As a matter of fact, Illegals in Florida have a free ride pretty much because they are mostly here working for Sugar Corporations and other Agriculture Entities which is the second largest economic engine in Florida.

Illegal Boys and Girls (children) are smuggled into the US through the US-Mexican Border and shuttled to Florida only to end up in Whore Houses that are setup in everyday subdivision. Clearwater PD busted one of the largest in the State last year as a matter of fact and the problem is growing.

I worked with a few Illegals, though at the time I did not know they were. They had used fake SSN's, had driver licenses, paid rent, had FICA and SS taken out of their checks and had kids in School.

They also voted....

After I left the West Palm area I was speaking with a wife of one of the guys and she told me that her husband had gone home to see his mother who was sick. She wanted me to be a character reference for him. I told her I had nothing but the best wishes for her, the kids and him but there was no way I was going to do squat for him. He needed to apply like everyone else that does it legal and wait his turn and pay his legal fee's if any applied.

Don't fool yourself, there is a huge number of Illegals living here playing like they are Legal and getting away with it and yes, they do Vote. There is a whole cottage industry up and running ensuring they have the ability to do so.

Corporation can bring them in on a work Visa which allows for example, 1 year of work and then loose a contract only to pink slip them. They should have to ensure they are put back across the border, but they don't. They cut them loose and don't do a damn thing leaving it up to an over taxed under manned INS to deal with it. Then they have to up the man power of ICE, HS, BP and any other number of Agencies to attempt to not deal with but attempt to Quell the Tsunami of Illegals who have, are and will setup life in America.

Those who claim "Illegals do the Jobs US Citizens don't want to do" is a pack of shit too. There is not a major Construction site in the State of Florida that does not have more Hispanics working for them on temporary work visas than US Citizens swinging Hammers.

The Largest Reloading Company in Pinellas County Florida has not one Asian, White or Black working for them inside the plant other than the Office Staff of Two and a Single Manager running Production.

Road Construction Contractor crews are made up mostly of Temporary Work Visa holders.

Are there allot of Hispanic Citizens in Florida yes, are there allot of Illegals, without question.

Is anything done about it? When one of them rapes, murders, robs or gets busted on a Felony charge. But beyond that, it is pretty much a none issue in most peoples minds. Especially those who benefit from them being here and who have the connection to keep them here while staying out of trouble for not doing their duty to see they go the hell home when the time comes.

And not just the sugar companies but all your orange groves are FULL of illegals.

2 years 50 weeks ago, 9:23 AM

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All BS aside

Everyone over the age of 5 who is a US Citizen is assigned a Social Security Card. The SSN is used as a form of Identification for just about anything that requires ID. Governmental Forms, Medical Forms, Bank Loans, Driver Licenses Applications, you name it.

There is no reason why it can not be used for Voter Identification.That is if you *EXCLUDE* the Voter ID that requires you to provide your SSN to get...

There *should* be a requirement of Identification before voting and those that argue against it are dumber than looking down the Muzzle to see if it is loaded.

I really get tired of this bullshit...

You sure as hell can't walk in cash a Check without Identification because they fear fraud. Well how in the hell did anyone come up with Voter Fraud as being acceptable to the point that there should be Loop Holes to allow it's possibility?

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!

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