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5 years 47 weeks ago, 3:48 PM

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ANKARA, Turkey – Declaring the U.S. "is not and never will be at war with Islam," President Barack Obama worked Monday to mend frayed ties with NATO ally Turkey and improve relations with the larger Muslim world.

Obama acknowledged still-raw tensions over the Iraq war but said Muslims worldwide have little in common with terrorists such as al-Qaida and have much to gain in opposing them. Reaching out, he also spoke of Muslim connections in his own background.

"We seek broader engagement based upon mutual interest and mutual respect," Obama said in a speech to Turkey's Parliament.

It was his first visit to a predominantly Islamic nation as president, and he struck a balance between extending a hand to Muslims in general and discussing Turkey's central role in helping to bring stability to a post-war Iraq and the wider Middle East.

"Our partnership with the Muslim world is critical, not just in rolling back the violent ideologies that people of all faiths reject but also to strengthen opportunity for all its people," he said. He portrayed terrorist groups such as al-Qaida as extremists far removed from the vast majority of Muslims.

Turkey has NATO's largest Army after the U.S., but relations between the two countries soured after the 2003 invasion of Iraq, which the Turks opposed. Turkey barred U.S. forces from going through its country to attack Iraq.

Now, however, since Obama is withdrawing troops, Turkey has become more cooperative.

Sharing parts of its southern border with Iraq, Turkey's role in maintaining security will be pivotal after U.S. combat troops are gone, despite the Turks' lingering problems with Kurdish militants in northern Iraq. Turkey also has important leverage with both Afghanistan and Pakistan and has served as a broker between Israel and several Arab states.

"Turkey's greatness lies in your ability to be at the center of things. This is not where East and West divide — this is where they come together," Obama said.

He acknowledged hard feelings over Iraq. "I know that strain is shared in many places where the Muslim faith is practiced. So let me say this as clearly as I can: The United States is not and will never be at war with Islam."

Obama's visit was closely watched by an Islamic world that harbored deep distrust of his predecessor, George W. Bush.

Al-Jazeera and Al-Arabiya, two of the biggest Arabic satellite channels, carried his remarks live.

The president invoked his own heritage: "The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country. I know, because I am one of them."

Obama's Kenyan father and grandfather were Muslims, and he spent time as a child in Indonesia, the country with the world's largest Muslim population.

The president spoke for about 25 minutes from a small white-marble-and-teak rostrum in the well of a vast, airy chamber packed with Turkish lawmakers in orange leather chairs.

Except for a few instances of polite applause, the room was quiet during his speech. There was a more hearty ovation toward the end when Obama said the U.S. supports the Turkish government's battle against the Kurdish rebel group PKK, which both nations consider a terrorist group, and again when he said America was not at war with Islam. Lawmakers also applauded when Obama said the United States supports Turkey's bid to join the European Union.

Ankara and Istanbul were the final scheduled stops on Obama's eight-day international tour. He began by attending the Group of 20 economic summit in London, then he celebrated NATO's 60th anniversary in Strasbourg, France, and visited the Czech Republic for a summit of European Union leaders.

Turkey is a member of both the G-20 and NATO and is trying to get into the EU with the help of the U.S.

"Some people have asked me if I chose to continue my travels to Ankara and Istanbul to send a message," Obama said. "My answer is simple: Evet. Yes. Turkey is a critical ally. Turkey is an important part of Europe. And Turkey and the United States must stand together — and work together — to overcome the challenges of our time."

Obama's strong support for Turkish membership in the EU, which he reiterated on Sunday at the meeting in Prague, has chagrined some U.S. allies, including France and Germany, which contend America has no say in the matter.

Obama acknowledged the point, but said he was speaking "as a friend" of both Europe and Turkey.

"Turkey is bound to Europe by more than bridges over the Bosporus. Centuries of shared history, culture and commerce bring you together," he said. "And Turkish membership would broaden and strengthen Europe's foundation once more."

Obama began the day paying tribute to the memory of modern Turkey's founding father. "I'm honored to pay tribute to his name," Obama said at wreath-laying ceremony during a morning visit to the tomb of Mustafa Kemal Ataturk.

In his later remarks to Parliament, Obama said Ataturk's "greatest legacy is Turkey's strong and secular democracy, and that is the work that this assembly carries on today."

He also met, separately, with President Abdullah Gul and Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan,

In a news conference with Gul, Obama stood by his 2008 assertion that Ottoman Turks carried out widespread killings of Armenians early in the 20th century. But he stopped short of repeating the word "genocide" that he has used.

"Well, my views are on the record and I have not changed views," Obama said.

Historians estimate that up to 1.5 million Armenians were killed by Ottoman Turks in the years leading up to and during World War I, event viewed by many scholars as the first genocide of the 20th century. Turkey denies that the deaths constituted genocide, claiming the toll has been inflated and the casualties were victims of civil war and unrest.

On the sidelines of a dinner Monday night, Obama huddled with the foreign ministers of Turkey, Armenia and Switzerland, said a senior White House official. Obama commended their efforts to bring about normalized Turkish-Armenian relations and urged them to complete the talks "with dispatch," the official said.

In his speech to Parliament — formally the Turkish Grand National Assembly — Obama said, "History, unresolved, can be a heavy weight. Each country must work through its past. And reckoning with the past can help us seize a better future."

"I say this as the president of a country that not too long ago made it hard for someone who looks like me to vote. But it is precisely that capacity to change that enriches our countries," said America's first black president.

Turkey maintains a small military force in Afghanistan, part of the NATO contingent working with U.S. troops to beat back the resurgent Taliban and deny al-Qaida a safe haven along lawless stretches of the Afghan-Pakistan border.

Turkey's participation carries enormous symbolic importance to the Muslim world. It has offered to help the U.S. train and support Afghan security forces.

In his news conference with Gul, Obama addressed the rift in U.S. and Turkish relations over Iraq. "I do not think they ever deteriorated so far that we ceased to be friends and allies. What I hope to do is build on what is already a strong foundation," he said.

5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:07 PM

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he can join Ayers w/being beat Profusly about the head. all liberals get in line. (you can have my gun when you pry from my cold fingers)

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 12:56 AM

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Kurdish PKK

May be seen by us as a terrorist group, but not by most Kurds living in Iraq. Turkey is terrified of the Kurds in northern Iraq because they want to join with the Kurds of southern Turkey and form Kurdistan, which would mean Turkey loses its southern oil fields and a shitload of revenue. That's why the Turks opposed the war, not for ideological reasons.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:55 PM

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"Fucktard already has forgotten 9/11"

Please explain what did Islam have to do with 9/11 ?

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 9:53 AM

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Fucktard definition

I was just curious. How is a fucktard different from a fuck-up, fuckhole, mother fucker or just plain fuck?

SamD is definitely the comic relief of gunslot, always while making a point.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:27 AM

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fucktard

is the offspring when an already imbred fuckhead knocks up his already imbred retarded sister

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 10:39 AM

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Just my opinion, but here goes.

The word "fuck" has many different usages and tenses, some would consider it the most useful word in the English dictionary. So lets concentrate on the suffixes.

Fucktard: tard is a shorten version of Tardy, an adjective meaning:
1. late; behind time; not on time: How tardy were you today?
2. moving or acting slowly; slow; sluggish.
3. delaying through reluctance.
So we extrapolate on the meaning->a slow fuck, a reluctant fuck

Fuck-Up: a person that is constantly making mistakes, you can substitute mess up, but you lose some of the urgency

Fuckhole: Quite frankly a place where one sticks his penis, can be a vagina, can be an asshole, etc. Basically a reverse euphemism.

Mother fucker: This is one that can be both positive and negative. You do not want to think of some one fucking your mother, but if you have kids, you are a mother fucker.

clint

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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More Fucktard

Oh! Now I fucking understand fucktardedness.

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5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:30 AM

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Hillary Clinton and

Hillary Clinton and President Obama are talking to Castro of Cuba, The Iranian President, Terrorist, Al Qaeda, North Korean President..

Hillary Clinton and Obama are talking to criminals while ignoring the struggling American people, U.S. Constitution, Bill of rights and the Declaration of independence.

Hillary and Obama are insuring America looses its Independence. Hillary and Obama want United States to be under the control of the World Bank which is run by England Executives.

Are you going to trust foreign bankers with your financial future and security.

I guess Americans are OK with this...

Thank you
5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:38 AM

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It's Official President Obama is going to talk with Iranian President about it's Nuclear program.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/08/us.iran.nuclear/index.html

I would not be surprised if Obama congratulated the Iranians for the advancement to a nuclear power.

This is so sad Obama, Hillary, Wall St, AIG, Bankers... They all sold out Americans.

They do not care about the American people

Thank you
5 years 47 weeks ago, 11:42 AM

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You said:
"Hillary and Obama are insuring America looses its Independence. Hillary and Obama want United States to be under the control of the World Bank which is run by England Executives. "

Who in the fuck do you think owns the Federal Reserve? The English do. The Rothchilds do.

Hillary and Obama are puppets for the real people in charge of this country. The Builderburg group runs the whole show.

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