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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:36 AM

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Subject: Fw: Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution???

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.

"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."

"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."

The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.

CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS CRAP!!! WHAT'S NEXT...IS HE GOING TO ASK THE ALLEGIANCE OF ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS & SET HIMSELF UP AS GOD TO BE WORSHIPPED???

THIS FRAUD & TRAITOR TO THE UNITED STATES & IT'S CONSTITUTION NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED!!!!

IF YOU'RE AS OUTRAGED BY THIS AS I AM...PASS IT ON SO OTHERS KNOW WHAT THIS SNEAKY FRAUD IS UP TO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS!

5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:46 AM

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First, the post cites a circular distributed by the press sec'y, then it refers to it as classified memo. As for the oath, we already swear to obey the orders of the POTUS and the orders of the officers appointed over us. This is bullshit. I want to see real, verifiable sources.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:51 AM

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It's really easy to get carried away with disinformation. There's plenty of real issues with Obama. We don't need fabrications designed just to spin people up.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:53 AM

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I don't know that I believe any of this. I am not a political supporter of the president but I would be hard pressed to believe that any president would do that. Now, would one of his staff think up something like this. Not unless they're prepared for more bullshit to happen than they could endure.

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 11:54 AM

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Need more proof on this one...

5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:00 PM

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Thanks to the internet

every swinging Richard out there can get his/her message to the masses and with so much of it going around, it's difficult to a) read it all and b) research sources of it all. I' getting really tired of fearmongering by the conservatives that Obama is going to do this, that, and the other. I do believe he's a socialist, maybe closet commie, I do believe he would love to see our rights eroded to nothing at all, and I do believe he is the weakest American president since Carter. But you are right, he has enough strikes against him without making up shit. It only lowers the credibility of the true issues. While I'm at it, I'm getting really fucking tired of hearing the word "un-American". It's being used by both sides more and more. I fucking hate it. Voicing your belief of dissent with the status quo in a public forum is one of the MOST American things you can do, and Bill O'Reilly and the ugly guy with glasses on Hardball are really getting out of hand with it. Hell, for that matter, so are any number of congress-people

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:07 PM

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If you believe Snopes, Oh that is right you get your news from the TV and Newspapers! And please refrain from speaking, you are oderous!

5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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If I want any shit out of you, I will take off your head and dip out a quart! Just STFU!

5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:20 PM

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of endearing yourself. Try "Winning Friends and Influencing People" by Dale Carnegie. Might help! Do you really think anything you post is going to stay up! You are as lame Specter's 80 yr old weenie!

5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:30 PM

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samD!!!!

You're talking to yourself again. Remember last time you did this we ended up finding you a mile away from the senior center and walking on the interstate. Take your meds. HAH HAH HAH!!!! You were just told to take your meds by us!!!! Oh. I mean, by me!!!!

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5 years 24 weeks ago, 12:34 PM

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Now that is funny! Dr Runaway!

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