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2 years 32 weeks ago, 1:43 AM

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After thinking about it, I have realized that, while the idea behind the thread is sound, with everybody's unique situation, trying to keep it relevant for each respondant (or is it respondent? I need LLE on this one. I'm too lazy to google the shit) would ultimately force us to make it into some sort of "Choose your own adventure" type thing. As much as I loved those books growing up, I think it'll do more harm than good.

With that, I'm going to try a different approach to my scenario-based wargames. I'm going to give an individual scenario that won't evolve so we can share and compare our preparations, including strenghts and weaknesses and see if we can learn from each other. My goal for this sort of thinking is that since an actual meeting is unlikely, we can attempt to share ideas online for the betterment of all the members of our little virtual back-alley hole-in-the-wall dive bar. we got going here.

Scenario/situation/question number one: There's a county-wide blackout. You don't know the reason or duration. How long are you prepared and willing to stay at home? If you decide to leave the house, where do you go? There are no hostile forces at work, no looting as yet, no social or civil unrest, just a power outage throughout your county.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 1:43 AM

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Personally, my house is all electric and I don't have a generator, so probably after the first 24 hours, if I don't have an answer from the electric company, my wife and kid are going to stay with her mother or grandmother in northern MO, since I'll have to keep going to work. I'll probably head to the next county over and stay with my mom until the power comes back on or it begins to look more ominous. So, 24 hours is about the limit during the winter for me.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 8:46 AM

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Scenario one,

indefinitely, while I don't have a generator, I do have a couple of power inverters, one is 2000w and a 400w which is plenty of power to run most any household appliance, hot plate, coffee pot etc. I have several Optima batteries which I can recharge with the car.

Fuel to run the car/inverter is not a problem as I have two five gallon cans on my outback and two fifteen gallon drums of race gas in the garage for the STI, that ought to last a while.

My furnace wouldn't work (electric blower) but I have a gas fireplace that would keep the main level of my house warm enough, upstairs might be a little chilly.

Water heater is gas, good stash of maglites and batteries, oil lanterns. If supplies are needed, I drive to where there is power

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 1:27 PM

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The gas fireplace is something I will not do without. As far as upstairs goes, leave the doors open and it'll be the warmest part of the house. The inverters and spare auto fuel are good also, be sure and run a cord to the fridge off of the 2000 watt unit, about 30 minutes every 2 hours should suffice.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 1:51 PM

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Scenario 1

Nothing ominous, just a region wide outage.
First I'll check for cell phone service, lots of towers have automatic backup generators.
If I can get a call through, I'll call the utility company I know they have backup power) and ask for a quick update on the problem.
If all the county is out it's one of two things. Either generation has been lost or transmission lines are down. If I cant get a call out, I'll drive to the maintenance yard of the power company and find a rep who can give me some info. The rep should be able to give a timeline for restoration.
With this information I will decide wether to stay put or bug out.
Edited cuz it made more sense.

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 2:04 PM

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scenario one..

First off, good job here dave, the war gaming thread need "containment" and if we can learn from each other this is the way to do it..

Ok, so what would i do different than posted.. I'm not seeing a lot of sit rep questions.. out side of pards (who of course is home after a hard 4 hr day.. sheesh)

The first question i would want answered is "how long".. we know its county wide.. but what does the future look like.. Vaq pretty much had it with personal intervention.. of course most of us wouldn't know what question to ask.. So it would be finding a creditable source. and getting as much valid info as possible..

I also have a 200W power source.. useless except for jumping my ride on mower.. but at least it could power "some" light source.. my camping gear is already inside for the winter.. this defined as camping gear that we have used the past 7 years we've been here. The good thing here is that i use propane, and have both a heater and cook surface that we have used.. i only have one extra bottle of propane at the moment so.. already a plus on this thread, as i can assure you next trip to civilization will give us extra propane bottles...

at this time im just gathering supplies to wait it out.. water, blankies, aforementioned propane.. The vehicles are ALWAYS fueled.. (this isn't a survivalist thing) its a live rural thing.. both of us feel the same way about not putting out vehicles to bed with out filling them up.. last stop we make on the way home is our local "mountainair".. the have amazing prices considering no competitors.for 20 miles..

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2 years 32 weeks ago, 5:07 PM

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If I HAD to, I could go about a month. I wouldn't be pretty though. If I found that it was just some outage and the battery powered radio I had mentions nothing about it more than that, I would probably go to a hotel after one night. If I have to work the next day, a power outage is not considered a good reason for calling in. Otherwise, I'd probably do it just b/c my wife would be complaining.

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 8:32 AM

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I have a question...

I've been reading articles about how the gas being sold now will separate out due to the ethanol in it, causing issues with engines if stored to long. How big of a threat is this when storing fuel in say 55 gal drums, and what can be done to prevent it?

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 7:37 PM

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Fuel storage is one more reason I'm going to buy a gasser and get rid of the diesel. By the way, the truck is up and running, thanks for everyone's concern, but I still hate it.

I always figured you'd just buy some fuel drums, throw in Sta-bil, and be fine.

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2 years 31 weeks ago, 8:08 PM

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http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx

I know that the Long Line and Shrimp Fishermen use this stuff in their small boats and most of the people at the Marinas use it in the boats and small kickers hanging off the back of their sailboats.

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
2 years 31 weeks ago, 8:30 PM

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http://www.fuel-testers.com/expiration_of_ethanol_gas.html

Scenio One. We've gone a week in winter w/o elec, no biggie.
Fireplace w/hearth stove insert, very efficient heating and like a cooktop that never gets turned off. The winter is easier, especially very cold. Take food out of refrig, put in net laundry bags & hang on porch. Some things you don't leave out long enough to freeze.
Last winter we stayed in for nearly a month due to snow, stupidly ventured out to take wife for Valentines day dinner, got stuck on the hill coming home, 800 yds from the house.
We're easily good for a month.

E10 gasoline has a shelf life maximum of 3 months because it absorbs water. Gas w/o ethanol is good for years.

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