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4 years 21 weeks ago, 5:24 PM

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OLD COLT QUESTION!!!!!

Colt 6.35 Cal.

Catfish is my "go to" Man with Colts. But he's busy right now, and Im not a patient person. Im starting to think I am dealing with a very old piece!! Im cleaning it for a friend, and I cant find a whole lot about it on the computer. Guess I dont know the right places to look, but I cant even find anything about it on coltmfg.com, nor in either of my Gun Digest Values books. Here's what is stamped on the gun, and where..........
Lft. slide- Automatic Pistol "Republic" Patent --- Below it CAL 635
(with the 6 large and 35 underlined and smaller, level w the top of the 6)
Lft side of frame - A calligraphied "F" and "S" (its not just block letters)
Rt side of frame - No 52
Bottom of grip - "Made in Spain"
"Made in" - on Left side "Spain" - on Rt side.
As U can see, it is hammerless, and the only thing Ive found that comes remotely close is the "Vest Pocket Pistol", and thats it. And if it is, It was made in 1908, and would have been manufactured within the first month of production... Any takers???

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 5:31 PM

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Its hard to see the No. on the frame and I forgot about the dad-dern add.

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 5:29 PM

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Colt 6.35 Cal.

Catfish is my "go to" Man with Colts. But he's busy right now, and Im not a patient person. Im starting to think I am dealing with a very old piece!! Im cleaning it for a friend, and I cant find a whole lot about it on the computer. Guess I dont know the right places to look, but I cant even find anything about it on coltmfg.com, nor in either of my Gun Digest Values books. Here's what is stamped on the gun, and where..........
Lft. slide- Automatic Pistol "Republic" Patent --- Below it CAL 635
(with the 6 large and 35 underlined and smaller, level w the top of the 6)
Lft side of frame - A calligraphied "F" and "S" (its not just block letters)
Rt side of frame - No 52
Bottom of grip - "Made in Spain"
"Made in" - on Left side "Spain" - on Rt side.
As U can see, it is hammerless, and the only thing Ive found that comes remotely close is the "Vest Pocket Pistol", and thats it. And if it is, It was made in 1908, and would have been manufactured within the first month of production... Any takers???

“When firearms go, all goes. We need them every hour.”- George Washington
4 years 21 weeks ago, 6:28 PM

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Here is a guess ACE

It seems to be a 380 Officer's Issue side arm??? Does it have two little holes in it on the bottom of the butt where a Lanyard Loop would have attached?? You may have seen them in old films where a officer on horseback has the small rope and it is clipped to the gun in its holster?? Like I said just a guess being the Spain "Made in's"

I've seen them a few times and they were always old guns,,,, but I haven't seen one quite this small.

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 8:06 PM

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colt

smaller caliber thats why

4 years 21 weeks ago, 6:59 PM

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I'm not as up on the colt autos as the colt revolvers (even then talking about DA stuff) but what this is a one of the "baby" models.. its 25 ACP of course, and browning which of course used as much of this stuff as under the Colt name called them all "babys" .. some also called them vest pockets but i believe you will find most of those based on the 1908 series as opposed to the 06 series....which of course is a model number and not a date of mfg.. I can check some of my old Colt books tomorrow for you, and sure Ecaman can fill you in as well...

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 7:35 PM

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Ok. It's a Spanish copy of the 1908 .25 cal colt pistol. FN first made it in belgium, then Colt bought the rights for it. I would guess it's either a Echave Spanish copy known as the Echasa, which doesn't have a grip saftey, (the colt ones did) or a Echeverria Star Copy. Also Astra-Unceta made a copy of it as well which is also a Spanish manufacturer. So, I don't know which one of those made yours, but it's one of em. Any which way it is, it is old.

4 years 21 weeks ago, 7:50 PM

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Thank U Guys!!

And a Humogoe Thank U 2 U, Cat!! Now that I know a little more about what Im working with, I can get to cleaning this nasty bitch!! My friend only knew how to take the barrel out, and nothing else.... So it has defonately seen better days, but I think the "gunk" is the reason its jamming on him, and what caused him to shoot himself with it. It was only a flesh wound in the pad of his hand, but non-the-less, a wound due to not knowing his pistol that well, and I believe, because of the size of it. (Thats just my opinion tho -the size part).

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 8:05 PM

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nice little pistol,a john Browning design,if you can separate the slide from the lower,there should be a serial number on it,they made them from 1908 to 48,except for the war years,ww2.Usually the slide will disassemble,but you might have already taken it apart.

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 8:38 PM

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Colt Junior

A.K.A. Astra 2000 Cub. Mfr. 1954-1998; U.S. importation stopped by GCA of 1968. Nice little gun.
Not the same as the Colt Vest Pocket Model of 1908, which was made 1908-1946, and which is far more valuable.

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 8:42 PM

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yeah Bob

i had to look on wikipedia,and the 1908 has an FN logo on it,not the Colt,i was searching for a Colt Junior earlier too.Do you remember how the slide comes off this?

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 9:05 PM

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Disassembly

To field strip: Lock the slide open with the safety lever. Turn the barrel clockwise til it stops, then pull it forward til it stops. Turn the barrel back to its original position, pull it out of the slide. Release the safety and run the slide off the frame. Remove the recoil spring and its guide from the frame.
Detail stripping isn't difficult, but the sear spring is a tiny bent round wire spring you have to be careful with so as not to bend it. There's generally no reason to detail strip one of these, unless something is broken and needs replacing. Field stripping is totally sufficient for cleaning.

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4 years 21 weeks ago, 6:06 AM

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ace

thats a colt junior

4 years 21 weeks ago, 6:48 AM

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there are a few on Gunbroker,you might have seen them already but here is a link http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=192062568

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