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Hunter59  |
I love old military rifles, but if i was going to invest in an old military rifle for recreational purposes, which one would u choose? I know these are all bolt actions, but I am open for suggestions for any rifle(semiauto too). "Bravery is the capacity to perform properly even when scared half to death." — Gen. Omar Bradley
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greasypaws
have to go sringfield cause it is basically a mauser copy, they did get sued by the germans for patent infringement and lost, the only thing that saved em' was ww2,plus the common availability of .30-06 ammo both new and surplus
greasypaws
i am also quite partial to the short magazine lee enfield i like the looks and handling of it plus the stripper clip loading is easy the .303 is a decent power cartridge and the accuracy of these guns are pretty decent i'm thinking of buying another one myself
greasypaws
i found one today at a sporting goods store that sells surplus rifles they wanted 189 bucks for it but i didnt have the ching ching maybe it will be there next payday they shoot 6.5x55 swedish ammo its a nice hunting round and aint shabby for benchrest competition either
wingman_1
greasypaws the k-31 shoots 7.5x55 better know as GP11. for 189bucks i would of snatched it up so fast the clerk's head would of fallen off, you cant get them for under 180 190 bucks now
greasypaws
thanks for the correction on the caliber.i was in that store yesterday and they still have it so after i buy my ak parts kit maybe that one goes on my short list.there aint alot of call for surplus guns around here in western Wa State just from gun nuts like me
Reaper308
start saving and get them all. I have 3 mausers, 5 nagants, 2 enfields and i want a 1903. depends on the country of origon. my favorite out of all of them may be a german 98k, or nagant m44. if you are looking into a semi auto, I love my french MAS, and M1 Garand.
greasypaws
arent the MAS's heavy as hell? what caliber do they shoot? thanks
greasypaws
i was really thinking the MAS 49/56 but tell me about your mas
Reaper308
yeah. my MAS is pretty heavy, but it's solid as hell. it was origionally chambered for 7.5x54mm, but rechambered to .308 by the company that purchased them surplus and imported them into the us. i kind of like it being .308 cause i like that round and i can find ammo anywhere.
greasypaws
at my local gun shop they have one that is the 49/56 that the owner actually has shot out the barrel so it had to be rebarreled thats why its there it is chambered in .308 not real common to shoot out a .308 barrel specially not a military type barrel but the throat of this thing is gone and the guy swears he wasnt shooting hot handloads or corrosive european ammo anyway it is a heavy gun i just dont know where to find that kind or the kind that you have i want one because i really like the .308 round mainly cause its a nato round and you know in the right circumstances.........
Snake
the Mosin Nagant................sweet gun.
Redneck_Outlaw
I agree I have a sporsterized Nagant in 7.62X54 with a 3-9X40 tasco and find in very accurate and afective for big game hunting in open long range areas
Hunter59
What about ballistics? Which cartridge has the best ballistics:
1.8mm
2.7.62x54R
3.303
4.30-06
5.303 British
Also what about prices, what are the price ranges for these guns?
greasypaws
this is a tough one but based on longevity and american usage and ammo availability i pick .30-06 even though i like the 303 british and the 7.62x54r
Snake
7.62x54R
Reaper308
8mm isn't bad either
Snake
they are somthing. any other gun that shoots 8mils besides the mauser?
greasypaws
well the cartridge talked about here is a mauser chambering called the 8mm mauser remington used to make a 8mm remington magnum but not real common anymore
Hunter59
What about prices, what are the average price ranges for these rifles?
greasypaws
well here in my area western wa the k31 and the lee enfields plus a couple steyr's run between 150 and 300 hundred in inspected ready to shoot condition the last time i saw a 98 mauser mitchell's mausers wanted 499 for them
Reaper308
depends on where they are from. i paid around $150 for my nagants (except for the sniper version with origional glass $800) i think the enfields were around $200, and the mausers were $100-$300. turkish was the cheapest, german was the most. the MAS was around $300-$400, and the garand was around $400 (really cheap for a garand).
Hunter59
What about the Springfield 1903?
greasypaws
the M1903A3's run about 750-800 here right now and that is a numbers matching gun too not a parts gun though you can find parts guns for 300 up
Reaper308
not sure. don't have one, but i want one. i think they will run a little more than the others i listed. not sure how much. just did a quick search on google and everything I found were $1200 and up, but they wen't surplus. most had new stocks and barrels and some were match grade. i'll try to look into the cost of a surplus 1903 and get back to you.
Hunter59
About what I figured. I might stick with the nagant for now its cheaper, but in the future I might purchase some more of these rifles.
Hunter59
Thanks for all the help guys. It is really appreciated!
Hunter59
I was at a gunshop yesterday, and they had a sporterized Mauser 98 for $600. But then they had a war issued Lee-Enfield for $500? Isnt that a little high?
greasypaws
depending on what has been done to the mauser and if it has a scope and stuff it may not be but the enfield is high even if it a war issued gun i can buy arsenal guns for 150 here that have been checked out and everything
Hunter59
The Mauser didnt have a scope, but it was custom and wasnt that high for what had been dun to it. But I couldnt get over that Enfield!
stewbaby
For old rifles I'd probably go with the Mosin Nagant in 7.62X54R. It was such a good rifle that back in WWII whenever allied troops would come across one they would drop their own weapons just to get a hold of this extremely accurate and powerful rifle. If you want semi-automatic then go with the M1 Garand with the clip conversion so you don't have to use the strippers. Fairly accurate even compared to some "modern" rifles, and uses the powerful and fairly easily accessible 30-06 round. Now for cartridges I'd either use the powerful 7.62X54R or the fairly cheap 30-06
Nutty Basterd
I love my 91/30 and at $85 it's a steal! Honestly though it is pretty accurate, the furthest I've shot though is around 90 to 110 yds, didn't actually measure it out. But anything in that range you point and it gets hit.