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7 years 22 weeks ago, 6:16 PM

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I'm new to carrying a firearm and I am confused about the laws concerning how one carries their weapon. In New Mexico it is legal to open carry but you have to be licensed to conceal carry. Maybe I'm just thick but that doesn't make much sense to me. I have carried open in a holster twice and won't do it again. I had cops called on me once and was asked to leave Walmart the other time. It makes people very uncomfortable. I tried a few different holsters for concealed but they are all very uncomfortable. I live close to all this stuff going on in Juarez Mexico and need to carry a gun. I don't want to get a license for concealed carry. I don't see how anyone has the right to require me to do that and I don't want my name on their forms. So for now my best solution is just to carry my pistol in my left front pocket of my bluejeans. It's a 9mm and fits just fine. I can get it out fast enough and I've asked several people if they can tell what it is and they can't. It's not uncomfortable so that's my imperfect solution.
I have no idea what the penalties are for carrying concealed without a permit. I do know that the bad guys, and there are some really bad guys around here, are carrying theirs concealed and I doubt they have permits.

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7 years 22 weeks ago, 6:29 PM

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It's not the holster that does it, it's the concealement. So you take your chances. I agree with your post. All people have to do is say they 'feel intimidated' and the cops are required to take a report and forward that report to the prosecutor. It sucks.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
7 years 22 weeks ago, 6:26 PM

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Tomasco

It is illegal in New Mexico to carry without a license. The downside if you get caught is maybe a felony conviction. Then you would never be able to get a license. Go get you concealed carry license. I am in Arizona and I have my license. I carry everywhere, if they don't want me in their store or place of business, I can find another place to spend my money. I will always tell them, that I will never be back, someone else needs my money. I tell Mr liberal weenie storeowner/clerk/asst manager, that they are trying to stop me from protecting myself.

7 years 22 weeks ago, 7:59 PM

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Illegally carrying concealed when you have the option of getting a permit is a stupid thing to do. I carried illegally in Kansas for years because they didn't have permits, and I did so knowing the penalties for getting caught. As for comfort, carrying a chunk of steel around all day is going to be a bit uncomfortable, but there are holsters out there that can mitigate it. I carry my Glock 19 or Glock 26 in a Don Hume leather inside the waistband holster all day long. I didn't get the holster model with the body shield, but I probably will. Galco makes nice belt slide holsters as well. It's one thing to refuse government registration, but it is completely within a state's rights to require licensing for concealed carry. I don't agree with it, and will not obey any law that prevents me from being able to protect myself and others, but I will go through the legal procedures as long as they are available.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
7 years 22 weeks ago, 8:00 PM

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run

ever pulled it out??serious no joke

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7 years 22 weeks ago, 8:04 PM

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Pulled it out?

I assume you mean my gun. No, I have never had to draw down on someone in civilian life. Hopefully I never do, as taking a life is not what some gun shop commandos make it out to be. There have been a few times where I put it behind my leg, but I rely very heavily on good situational awareness and avoiding places where confrontation is likely.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
7 years 22 weeks ago, 8:08 PM

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ya see

I have a slight temper, and thats why i don't think I'll ever carry. legal or not.iM calmer now ,but I just don't know what would happen...So im safe

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7 years 22 weeks ago, 8:21 PM

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I have really wanted to run people off the road and beat them and kill their families for flipping me off while. But carrying a gun actually calms me a bit. I think knowing I have the tools to go to a higher level of force than most people around me lets me stay relaxed. There are some who shouldn't carry a gun in public, especially the guys who think it's "cool" or the ones who want to act as society's avengers or citizen police. Carrying a gun in public, if you do it responsibly, forces you to pay attention to your surroundings and you have fewer confrontations

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
7 years 22 weeks ago, 8:23 PM

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yeah i guess

thats why a carry around a spear

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7 years 22 weeks ago, 9:18 AM

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Break down

Well, I guess I'll get the permit then. The argument that the individual states have the right to license makes sense to me. I agree with Runaway about the calming effect of carrying a firearm. You develop a sense of responsibility. I don't want to ever have to pull it out. That would put one on a path that would certainly have consequences. If nothing else I'd probably spend several hours explaining it to LE. Then I would no doubt be on a list somewhere as a possible 'nut'.

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7 years 22 weeks ago, 9:44 PM

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Pulling a gun

If you pull a gun and don't use it, best case is you get some grief from the cops and the aftermath of a nearly critical incident, worst case you get charged with aggravated assault and hauled off to jail. It is not something to be taken lightly.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.

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