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4 years 24 weeks ago, 2:14 AM

greg az

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Gentleman, im sure that given the emotion of today that this letter is the last thing you would care to deal with..Let me assure you that it will not be adversarial in anyway. Those of us who love your site, have a great deal of respect for you two.. Were all aware that a nominal fee could (and maybe should) be charged for membership. One of the "givens" here is that the site represents the best free value on the Webb given our particular avocation..

If you remember some months ago when i decided to have that cross put on my avatar i sent you gentleman a pm (requesting no response) the point of which was to reassure you that i would be careful dealing with the subject of religion, to reassure you that i would not proselytize, or in any way do anything that could alter the site. I made it clear at that time that if you had any issues with this, then or in the future that your wishes would immediately and discreetly be addressed..

I did that because something really special has happened on this site.. A core group of 25 individuals spend an average of 3 hrs a day on the site. The give and take between this group of regulars, is i believe (this is constantly reinforced by new members) the reason the site has the hits it does.. Last year at this time there was NO advertisement.. The assumption can only be made that you have a large enough market share to now bring those advertising dollars in..

The future of that group is now in danger.. Please know that this is not a threat, anyone who has management experiance knows threats are divisive, and unproductive.. On top of that a prime axiom is "no one is irreplaceable".. With all due respect.. That honestly does not apply to the core group here at Gunslot.. The fact is Sam is considered by a factor well in excess of 95% to be the most important part of your site..

We have discussed many times that Sams position should be salaried, fact is he's very much the Editor in Chief.. The amount of posts that Sam puts up everyday, the type of posts that Sam puts up, and his day to day "guidance" of the subject matter are the primary reason we all show up everyday.. There is NO way to underscore this enough.. Sam will subtlety change the subject matter based on the interest shown (or not shown).His contacts on every subject make him a virtual expert source for what ever the subject happens to be.. And perhaps his best or at least wisest skill is the ability to take himself OUT of the center of conversation, and let the members voice there openion.. By doing that he allows and at the same time guides the really bright and humorous conversations that the site is known for..

If you asked, and i think you will see by the response to this post the membership at random what THE single most important part of gunslot is.. The answer would be Sam.. Were not sure what happened, except some verbiage that some of the monitors authority has been curtailed.. All of us are aware of an event that occurred perhaps two weeks back. Should this be the source of the problem, let me assure you its a NON event, and nothing Sam has ever done has been counter to one goal.. His clear desire to be the president of the most enjoyable web site on the net related to our hobby, and believe me so much more.. I can assure you that all of us KNOW he has succeeded..

Gentlemen, can i ask on behalf of the members of Gunslots that you rectify this issue.. I have not spoken to Sam on this.. But i know a simple email, phone call, or pm, with a simple "pls return to prior responsibilities" would do the trick.. I'm going to tell you two the honest truth, Sam is NOT replaceable to us... Thanks guys.. Will do our best to support you two, we sure would appreciate your hearing our wishes here..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
4 years 24 weeks ago, 2:29 AM

raffycanlas

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marv and quin, gunslot wont be what it is today without samD, now if you ask me, i think we all owe samD, and i think its not right to take away his moderating privileges, he gets rid of spammers, trolls, and anything that doesnt relate to this site, i just wish you would return his privilieges and matter of fact, give him more, so he can actually ban the people who causes this drama, and if samd complains about snake and schuyler, then i think they should be the ones that leave. and if you still wont change your mind about this, and samd leaves, then its just right that you remove all the stuff he put in this site, its his not yours, lets see how helpful and entertaining this site becomes then, might as well change the name from gunslot to ghost town.

marv and quin, we love this site, but samd is the heart and soul of this site, take away the heart and soul of anything, and you guys know you aint got nothin.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
4 years 24 weeks ago, 2:41 AM

greg az

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Raff.. I think they know, and will know from the responses.. But by the same time, we owe them a debt of gratitude for this site, and its not going to help anything if we go all medieval, and in any way adversarial..

Right now i think the whole thing could be yesterdays news if M or Q just sent an E or pm to Sam.. and im thinking that threats and mutiny might not help that along..

Were all on the same page here.. Maybe seeing how strongly we feel might help.. But guys Im thinking Sams a proud man and its going to take M and Q to reach out, so sure dont want to make that harder for the owners so lets keep it professional..

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
4 years 24 weeks ago, 7:13 AM

HampsterW

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(don't be a woman..lol).....Bottom line: SAM LEAVES, I LEAVE plain and simple. Catch you guy's later.....

Hamp

Change you can truly believe in comes from the barrel of a gun---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Ron Paul 2012----Vote the bastards out!---------------------------------
4 years 24 weeks ago, 7:47 AM

HKBauer

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To Marvin and Quinton

Although I am relatively new to the site having joined just about a month ago, I have logged on daily. I have been a member of other sites but none quite like Gunslot. When I joined Sam was among the first to welcome me. On the other sites I belonged to got to be full of trolls, ads for things that are better left unsaid, spammers and posts were all over the place. Now gentlemen this is your site, you own it and have the right to do what you like with it, however due to Sam's dilligence trolls, ads, spammers are all kept to a minimum.
His job is a thankless one and Im sure Sam never realized how much the guys here appreciate his efforts until now, its like walking into your regular bar and the bartender that had always been there and know what you drink and had it set up before you even sat down is suddenly gone, theres someone new who you dont know, doesnt know you or what your drink is, and therefore the feel of the place is off. Well to me Sam is the old bartender that you always took for granted and suddenly was gone, you didnt realize the work he did until he was gone.
See this site is like a club were like minded people can come share advice, articles, pics, or just chew the fat
I ask you men as honorable me please return Sam to his rightful place as moderator and President of or little community here at Gunslot.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
Adam Bauer

4 years 24 weeks ago, 8:21 AM

luckybychoice

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see i like keeping

this stuff out in the open,Raffy says it for me too,and if you can't feel passionate about some things,have a little emotion going,then your a shell of a human being,obviously a lot of guys feel something about this site,otherwise....like my daddy use to tell me,"son if i didn't care,then i wouldn't be beating you right now".

i tried being reasonable,i didn't like it, NRA LIFE MEMBER,USMC VETERAN
4 years 24 weeks ago, 12:36 PM

greg az

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I just came back to send some pm's... Sam, Ecaman, Greasy, Lucky, Vaq,.. ya lucky fucks

a man has to hold his word, hold his beliefs, and hold a good sight picture.
4 years 24 weeks ago, 12:43 PM

Shakleford

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How are ya doing Greg?

Got a mess here, don't we!

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