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5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:19 PM

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CAIRO, Egypt – Al-Qaida chief Osama bin Laden urged Muslims to launch a jihad against Israel and condemned Arab governments as allies of the Jewish state in a new message aimed at harnessing anger in the Mideast over the Gaza offensive.
Bin Laden spoke in an audiotape posted Wednesday on Islamic militant Web sites where al-Qaida usually issues its messages. It was his first tape since May and came nearly three weeks after Israel started its campaign against Gaza's militant Hamas rulers.
The al-Qaida leader also vowed that the terror network would open "new fronts" against the United States and its allies beyond Iraq and Afghanistan. He said President-elect Barack Obama has received a "heavy inheritance" from George W. Bush — two wars and "the collapse of the economy," which he said will render the United States unable to sustain a long fight against the mujahedeen, or holy warriors.
"There is only one strong way to bring the return of Al-Aqsa and Palestine, and that is jihad in the path of God," bin Laden said in the 22-minute audiotape, referring to the revered Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem. "The duty is to urge people to jihad and to enlist the youth into jihad brigades."
"Islamic nation, you are capable of defeating the Zionist entity with your popular capabilities and your great hidden strength — without the support of (Arab) leaders and despite the fact that most of (the leaders) stand in the barracks of the Crusader-Zionist alliance," bin Laden said.
The authenticity of the tape could not be independently confirmed, but the voice resembled that of bin Laden in previous messages.
The White House dismissed the tape, saying it reflected bin Laden's "isolation" and shows the al-Qaida leader is trying to remain relevant at a time when his ideology and mission are being questioned and challenged.
The tape, entitled "a call for jihad to stop the aggression on Gaza," was played over a still picture of bin Laden and the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem's Old City, one of Islam's holiest sites. But there were no English subtitles and flashy production graphics that usually accompany such messages.
That suggested the message had been hastily put together and issued to best exploit anger in the region over the Gaza offensive, which Palestinian medical officials say has killed more than 940 Palestinians, half of them civilians. Israel said the offensive aims to halt rocket fire from Gaza against Israeli towns.
Bin Laden accused Arab leaders of "avoiding their responsibility" to liberate Palestine.
"If you are not convinced to fight, then open the way to those who are convinced," he said.
Bin Laden and his lieutenants frequently use the Palestinian issue to try to rally support for al-Qaida and often call for holy war to free Jerusalem. But there has been little sign that the terror group has carried out attacks in Israel.
Bin Laden made no direct reference to Hamas, which seized power in Gaza in 2007. Al-Qaida leaders have frequently criticized the Islamic militant group for participating in elections and failing to seriously pursue jihad against Israel.
The al-Qaida leader also said the world economic crisis was a sign that the United States' power was falling apart.
"The Islamic nation's jihad is one of the main causes of these destructive results for our enemies," he claimed.
Pointing to wars in Afghanistan and Iraq since the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, bin Laden said al-Qaida was prepared to fight "for seven more years, and seven more after that, then seven more."
"We are on the way to opening new fronts," he said, urging Muslims to "join hands with the mujahedeen to continue the jihad against the enemy, to continue bleeding them on these two fronts and on the others that are open to you."
"The question is, can America continue the war against us for several more decades? The reports and signs show us otherwise," he said. He said Bush had left his successor "with a heavy inheritance," forcing Obama to choose between withdrawing from the wars or continuing.
"If he withdraws from the war, it is a military defeat. If he continues, he drowns in economic crisis," bin Laden said.
It was the first time bin Laden have spoken of Obama, though he did not mention him by name. Bin Laden's top deputy Ayman al-Zawahri has previously spoken against Obama, warning Muslims he will not bring major change in U.S. policies.

any who poses a threat to me or my team must die!!!
5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:21 PM

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whats this crazy bastard up to now. Sounds to me like hes sayin there is lot more to come from him an Al-Qaida

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:24 PM

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never know whats goin on but beleive flight ops will always be willing to throw ur crap out of a 747 espically if its a lap top thats how we do it

if its legal its probably not very fun
5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:26 PM

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that has nothing to do with this you prolly didnt even read it....

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:27 PM

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yea i did

yea i did

if its legal its probably not very fun
5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:28 PM

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if something new kicks off and troops gotta fly how else will they get their stuff broken before they go over

if its legal its probably not very fun
5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:30 PM

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Bin laden sounds

like the sick, near dead bastard that he is. Why the Fuck can't we get this guy?

5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:43 PM

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he is becomming more and more irrelevant, as the rival gangs like Hamas, Fatah and Hezbolla get more and more of the headlines. So, poor old Osama will be going round and round trying to get back his middle east esteem, until he finally flies up his own ass and disappears.

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 12:45 PM

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Amen and

Allah akbahr to that! Thanks LLE you made my day!

5 years 48 weeks ago, 6:03 PM

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with the London bombings. The interesting thing about this tape is that he doesn't even mention Bombay and does not mention Obama by name either. This has led some analysts to suggest the tape is not new. It's full of the same old same old. In fact, this is the seventh tape he has made without any attack to back it up. It's also significant that he now communicates by tape where he used to communicate via Video. And third, there was no hype prior to the tape being released. Hype puts the US on alert. This indicates it's dangerous for them to get a tape out at all and that the US can pin them down quickly. The US has successfully killed many al Qaeda top leaders over the last couple of years. Basically, if they talk and we hear, they die.

Technologically he's sliding backwards. Of course, that's what happens when you live in a cave. That doesn't mean the jihadist movement isn't dangerous, but bin Laden's influence has waned.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." - Edmund Burke
5 years 48 weeks ago, 6:41 PM

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As much as I want to see him hanging by his thumbs from the Chrystler, Bin Laden is our Emanuel Goldstein. He's the face we use for the boogeyman of "terrorists" and more of a buzzword then strategic target. Realistically, how many of our enemies is Bin Laden leading right now?

Iran is an autonomous nation, the Iraqi's want control of their country and as are welcoming to Al-Queida as we are, the situation in Afghanistan would only be made worse by executing Bin Laden.. I hate to say this, but the man is of declining strategic value. He's in failing health, hasn't been been verifiably seen alive in over six months, and is shifting from specific events to more vague threats and references.

As nice as it is to believe that taking out Bin Laden would solve our current War on "Terror", the only thing catching and killing him will do is make a few hotbloods feel better about 9/11.

5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:15 PM

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Osama

Keep saying he's "not relevant" until another 9/11 happens. No, he's not the sole terriorist that is planning attacks on the US, but he does have a great following of rodeo clowns that will die for him/their cause. As long as he is alive, he could be planning more attacks. A person who devotes their life to a cause as he has, will not stop until they are dead

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:24 PM

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1984 here, but I had forgotten about Manny Goldstein--the hypothetical construct, and his Brotherhood, also a hypothetical construct.

I think BinLaden was real, but I am not certain Manny was. It may very well be, as you alluded to, that Osama is verging on irrelevance. I suspect that as I mentioned above, we might ultimately see some significant fireworks between Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah, and the reminants of al Qaida/Taliban, while they try to con everyone into believing they are all cooperative friends.

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5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:21 PM

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when was the last video of threats from Osama shown public in the U.S.?

5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:26 PM

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dont know

about a "video shown public in the US" but he did release an audio recording a week or so ago, and experts agree that it was likely him

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:33 PM

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where can I

Here the translated version?

5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:38 PM

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google it

I'm not searching for that shit!

"Proelium Comminus Auctoritate" "Sometimes the light at the end of the tunnel is a muzzle flash."
5 years 48 weeks ago, 7:46 PM

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Ok

Ok

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