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5 years 29 weeks ago, 6:35 PM

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April 3, 2009

It does not matter if every gun in the world is taken up, outlaws and criminals will always have guns and bombs.

The President is doing every thing he can to take guns from honest, law abiding citizens of the United States. He said "I am not against guns or the right for honest law abiding citizens to carry them." Now, he making new gun bills that will take guns and ammo from all honest, law abiding citizens.

He said "I am going to create jobs for every one." Now he is saying "It will take years to create jobs." The President said just what the American citizens wanted to hear so he could get in office and now he is doing just the opposite.

If he takes guns and ammo from the citizens, it will only make the criminals job a lot easier. What would you do if someone broke into
your home and you do not have a gun for protection? You are going to do just as the criminals say and watch them take everything you have worked hard for. They might take your life and your family's life.

One day a conceal carry person with a permit might save your life and, or your family's life. If you own a firearm or like to shoot them for the sport, hunting or protection, please join the N.R.A and, or Gun Owner of America. The small amount of money it takes, could save your guns and ammo.

Guns don't kill people - people kill people. In Chattanooga, every day there is a shooting or killing. As an honest, law abiding citizen, it is your right to protect yourself and the lives of your family or friends. I urge you to buy a gun, take lessons to learn to shoot and get a conceal carry permit.

If the President gets his way, you will have to give up the firearms that you own, the ammo that you own and the right to keep and bear arms. The N.R.A and Gun Owner of America fight every day to protect our second amendment right to keep and bear arms. Please join and help to protect your rights. You can also write your state representative or governor and let them know you are against these new bills the President is trying to pass and that you voted for them in trust that they will protect your rights as an American citizen.

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While you are right in your overall premise unfortunately you are repeating a fallacy that has been purported to be a fact by the gun control lobby. The BATFE has recently stated that the Mexican government only submits about one in ten confiscated weapons to the U.S. for tracing. While it is true that about 90% of these weapons are traced back to the U.S. most are not assault weapons, and it has been said (off the record of course) that the reason more aren't submitted is because a lot of the weapons came from Mexican Army deserters (of which there have been over 100,000) and that the majority of the assault weapons (which are fully automatic and not available in the U.S.) came in from China and other suppliers through Central America.

There is one particular weapon that the cartels do have a liking for and are buying here however, the .50 cal. BMG. The truth is that this is only a smokescreen for a weapons ban that was promised to the Brady Campaign and others before Obama was even elected and is only the beginning.

The U.S. Attorney General himself has stated his intention to push for an assault weapons ban that is so sweeping in it's nature that it will make any gun that uses a detachable magazine an assault weapon (that covers 90% of the hand guns in the U.S.) and even outlaws pump shotguns.

And people wonder why there has been such a huge rise in gun and ammo sales since November.

5 years 29 weeks ago, 7:15 PM

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great points

will we ever get back to normal?

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 7:36 PM

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Hopefully someday?

When my wife was pregnant with my daughter I was and still am after three year apologizing to her for the shitty world she and her generation are going to inherit. The damn babyboomers are doing their damndest to turn the great US into a communist nation, and my generation have turned into a bunch of lazy little bastards afraid to get their hands dirty. Yes I know that there are exceptions to the rule, but us good ones are greatly outnumbered. Our children are going to be the future of this country so we need to do all we can to teach them right. Teach them the real Constitution and what the bill of rights was and what they meant. Teach them to be strong and be what they want to be even if it is not cool among their peers. I hope to see our great country restored back to her once gloriuos state.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 11:49 PM

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couple of rednecks, 2 men and a woman, tried to steal my vehicle while i was at burger king, i pulled out my conceal carry g19 and asked them to hit the ground and that one movement, ill blow their heads off, oh btw, they had warrants for them and were looking for a vehicle to leave tennessee.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
5 years 29 weeks ago, 7:17 AM

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"Rednecks"

you mean "white trash" right (lol)

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 12:46 AM

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raffy!

watch your mouth numb nuts!you said "couple of rednecks"tried to steal your car.probably a few fucking mexicans!kinda like your wanna be redneck ass!these are the people who steal cars!if a redneck is gonna steal a vehicle it is definitely gonna be a TRUCK!get it right!ASSHOLE!

5 years 29 weeks ago, 1:00 AM

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Busted

by the man himself... they were probably tweakers in need of a fix. rednecks are more likely to steal your case of busch or natty. They don't need your car. they can build one with a screwdriver, an avacado and a snorkle

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 7:32 AM

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greasypaws wrote:
watch your mouth numb nuts!you said "couple of rednecks"tried to steal your car.probably a few fucking mexicans!kinda like your wanna be redneck ass!these are the people who steal cars!if a redneck is gonna steal a vehicle it is definitely gonna be a TRUCK!get it right!ASSHOLE!

I am with Greasy on this one. So often people get rednecks confused with white trash meth heads. Big difference a Redneck is a guy that is willing to go out and work for his belongings, and are willing to help out their neighbors. White trash meth heads are lazy theifs that would steal from their own Grandmothers. Although both usually live in trailer houses.LOL
I can not speak for Greasypaws, but I for one am a redneck and damn proad to be called such. I think Greasypaws got on the defensive because he is a real redneck to.

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 7:47 AM

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Defining white trash

thanks for making the distinction I assumed people would know the difference (opp's) forgot about MannyG. lol

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5 years 29 weeks ago, 8:49 AM

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Back to topic.....

I carried concealed for years with no permit and will never, never obey laws that take away my ability to defend myself, my family, or my fellow citizens. I still carry my gun everywhere, including on my way to and from work even though concealed carry is illegal on military installations. I go to and from work in uniform and anyone who knows about our rules knows soldiers in uniform likely don't have means to defend themselves, but there are a lot of us who disregard this rules and take our chances with getting caught. I can't see stopping for gas and soda on the way home from work and being a victim of a mugging while wearing the uniform of a soldier. There is often a difference between being law abiding and doing what's right.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
5 years 29 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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Mexico is the perfect

Mexico is the perfect example of the outlaws outgunning the law abiding citizens. In Mexico it is against all laws for any Mexican citizen to be armed.

Have you read the news lately and even the Mexican president cried out to President Obama...

President Obama and Hillary Clinton both stated keep up the good work and keep the guns away from law abiding citizens.

Thank you
5 years 28 weeks ago, 11:11 AM

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Manny G you are right on the money and it seems that we take the heat for the guns going into Mexico yet no one says a thing about the shipping containers coming in from Asia and Russia full of surplus arms and are unloaded in Mexico ports

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 11:51 AM

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shadow walker wrote:
Manny G you are right on the money and it seems that we take the heat for the guns going into Mexico yet no one says a thing about the shipping containers coming in from Asia and Russia full of surplus arms and are unloaded in Mexico ports

Most of the Mexican gangs have fully automatic weapons. 99% of the full Auto M16 in Mexico was illegally made in India.

President Obama, Hillary Clinton and the Mexican President will never admit they were wrong again. For some weird reason they are bent on taking every last gun away from the law abiding citizens...

Can you imagine the lies they are spreading to the American people about the G 20 plans.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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After United States

After United States officials wasted hundreds of billions of tax payer money on the fail drug wars, how on earth do President Obama and Hillary think they are going to eliminate all guns? Is it possible Hillary Clinton and Obama are on some type of drug relapse?

Fact is only an incompetent person would suggest to the American people we can win the drug war if we spend additional hundreds of billions of tax payer’s money on the drug war. The only people succeeding in the drug wars are the Mexican drug lords. Can you believe that?

I guess Americans think money grows on trees in an endless supply.... The only thing that grows is drugs (cocaine, weed etc)

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 2:09 PM

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bananas and coconuts

also grow on trees

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:54 PM

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gun laws will lead to

Gun laws will lead to the 2nd revolution. I personally do not know one gun owner that will give up a single gun to the government. If they want to try, go ahead but for Gods sake be prepared to take them with force. no one will ever get a single bullet back from me unless they take them one shot at a time.
I recently was reading posts on Youtube from people who commented on videos about guns and the coming of the 2nd revolution. I was shocked to see 90% of the comments were in line with "our" thinking. Shocked in a good way. It gave me a warm fuzzy feeling to know Americans are awakening.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 2:07 AM

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I don't get it.

Here's a though. When people die at the hands of some rampaging lunatic, you hear all sorts of outcry against those vile guns. Us citing the second amendment will only last for so long. Why not have a rally against the laws that ensured unarmed victims? The vast majority of mass shootings occur in gun-free zones, so why not create a public outcry against the laws that prevented the victims from having the means to defend themselves. The receptionist in New York that was shot, played dead, and called 911 was hailed as a hero by the police chief for calling the cops. What if that same woman had been shot, played dead, then drew her legally-concealed gun and shot the bad guy in the back of the head? She probably would have been called "lucky" and been admonished in the media with some shit like "she's lucky to have survived, people should let the police handle these situations, that's what we're trained and equipped for. We need to change the perception of the public by using the same techniques as the anti-freedom crowd. This post will be forgotten very soon, but if one of these terrible events occurs in your area, don't hesitate to make public the questions of why must people be defenseless in certain areas or buildings when the police are not allowed to enter until it's deemed safe. If the police are going to wait outside until it's safe, then what good are they?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 10:01 AM

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if you're a member of the left and you have the media at your disposal. It's alot tougher if you're not. In fact, you could be ruined, if you're on the opposite end of their agenda... Just ask Bernard Goetz, who in the end was only convicted of a firearms violation. Goetz was crucified by the media before he was ever even charged. His subsequent civil lawsuit, however, rendered him bankrupt, and one of his perps was awarded a 40 something million dollar judgement... That could happen to any of us, simply for defending ourselves... Still, most of us would probably do the same thing.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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im sorry i didnt stop and think if my carjackers were rednecks or white trash, i wouldve done the exact same thing if they were mexicans, black, white trash, or redneck, my bullets dont discriminate, and how the hell did mexicans get in this conversation anyways? if i offended couple of rednecks in here, i apologize, its not what i inteded BUT dont be too fucking sensitive, but did i know for a fact they used meth? no! but they did have warrants for em, why did i say redneck? one of the dudes has a mullet, and the woman aint got no teeth!

and for greasyass, i mean paws, whatever your fucking name is, WHEN DID I SAY CAR!!!, i said vehicle, i drive a 1998 dodge ram laramie 1500, A VEHICLE COULD WELL BE A TRUCK, CAR, OR MOTORCYLE YOU FAT FUCK! i know the difference between redneck and white trash, but you cant jump on people asses for making one simple ass mistake because your fat whale ass was "insulted" accidentally.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
5 years 28 weeks ago, 11:00 AM

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A dodge?i still stand behind my statement!now go sit in the corner and play with yourself!

5 years 28 weeks ago, 11:07 AM

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play with my self?

atleast i can look down and see my cock right?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:49 PM

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greasy?!?!?!

What did you mean by the Dodge comment, my dodge hauled you around just fine!!!

Just wanted to get in an arguement for no reason...
Yes there is a reason, no there is not, hey wait a minute. Am I channeling runaway? no you are not, but maybe I think I am...

clint or is it runaway

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:54 PM

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clint

in deference to your statement,yours is a diesel which puts it in the truck category not in the ass sled with a bed on the back category and i was trying to get skippy riled up which obviously worked since he replied with a comment about seeing his penis.

5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:56 PM

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BTW!i shot my RPK last night.shoots great!but i didnt have time to site in the scope,i shot it with the open sights.fun,fun,fun!

5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:57 PM

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I was just having a little fun at both your guys, and runaway for that matter expense. I am still looking for my penis, hopefully I will find it one of these days and it will have all sorts of great stories!!! lol

Why aren't you at work redneck?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:59 PM

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clint

i leave for work in 30 minutes.i start at 3.i had a 4 day weekend as well!perfect weather,lotsa BBQ!too bad i have to work today!

5 years 28 weeks ago, 2:13 PM

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it all cant be rosie

all the time. At least you got a 4 day weekend, the last time I had one of these, I had to use my vacation time...

At least you got some time with your guns...er, I mean family.

clint

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 4:56 PM

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Raffy

I am forced to believe that most of us rednecks in here, are smarter than you.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:04 PM

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a 33 yr old body shop manager talking smack on the internet about something he isnt involved in...real smart huh? your immaturity level is well...non existent, please dont vote for obama again k?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:07 PM

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Raffy

How in the hell do you think I am not involved? You got called out for using redneck in the wrong context.I am a redneck, therefore involved. It would seam to me that you don't even truly know what a redneck is.
Now go sit in the corner and think about what you have done. Don't come back here until your attitude has changed k?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:15 PM

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if you can clearly read back the fucking thing i posted, i APOLOGIZED, so stop with your smart ass remarks saying "sit down and change atitude"

what the fuck are you gonna do man? get angry, whine and bitch and then type harder at the computer?!?!?!?!?

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:46 PM

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lol

Hook line and sinker...........

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 5:53 PM

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btw, all snide comments aside, i really am sorry for the offensive thing i said...

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:03 PM

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Accepted

Your first apology was no good IMHO. It was like a little kid saying "I'm sorry but..."
your second apology is right on the mark and accepted wholeheartedly

this statement is what set me off in your apology, for the record:
"why did i say redneck? one of the dudes has a mullet, and the woman aint got no teeth! "

Rednecks don't have to have mullets or missing teeth. Being a redneck is a way of life. I think Jeff Foxworthy ruined the term with all his you might be a redneck if jokes.

I am a redneck for these reasons:
1. a gun owner
2. a hunter
3. I live off the beaten path
4. I love the outdoors
5. I use my 4x4 for off roading
6. I drink cheap beer ;)

To me being a Redneck is a good thing.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:07 PM

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a redneck. Just ask anyone from Bremerton.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:09 PM

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Lol

Thanks my man!

And if your from Bremerton you gotta be a crack head, just ask anyone in Belfair..lol

We call Belfair "Beltukey"

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:09 PM

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it did seem like i was being a prick my first time apologizing, i kinda got on the defense when greasy called me an asshole, and i actually enjoy coming here reading yalls posts, fact is, i made a mistake, i didnt purposely offend anyone, if i was gonna do that, ill go to myspace, or whatever shit is famous now, im a gun owner, i hunt, i love the outdoors, i have a 4x4(yes, a dodge), i live off the beaten path, so that i guess practically makes me a redneck too, i dont drink cheap beer though, fucking budweiser prices shot up. and listen bro, to me being a redneck is an awesome thing too, so im sorry for the misunderstanding.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:10 PM

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oh god

Your a tree huggin hippy Schuyler. Braindead Island ;)

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:12 PM

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All good. BTW Budweiser is not beer it's nasty ass fermented rice water that gives you the shits. Anytime is Miller time for me. I like High Life..lol

Beside Budweiser is no longer American owned.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:53 AM

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raffy and gunnin

you both drink beers owned by foreign companies!Budweiser is owned by the belgians and Miller is owned by a south african conglomerate of companies.I drink Coors Light-made here in the good old US by a company in Colorado!BTW,raffy,i accaept your apology but dont be so sensitive when someone calls you out!it wasnt like i called you a douche or something.

5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:15 PM

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I was a hippy, but I had a change of heart, quit the ACLU and joined the NRA. It was just time to grow up. Braindamage Island is definitely full of libs. It sucks

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:16 PM

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I feel for ya

I can't imagine being surrounded like you are. Must feel like your in a foreign country..lol

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:28 PM

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who owns budweiser now? i may sound like an idiot but i refuse to drink miller lite because of that idiot kurt busch, miller is pretty good too though, you wanna drink fermented rice? try coors light lol

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:30 PM

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Not sure what has happened here tonight but seems as though everyone has gotten all sensitive and emotional like.

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http://www.bremelo.com/ They do go through a period of Bremelesence, which is their best time to breed. Definition is here: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Bremelo and here: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bremelo and it just eeps getting better: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=6664519...

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we call them FUSFUM. (fuz fom)
F'ing
Ugly
Slut
F'ing
Ugly
Makeup

ROFLOL!

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:56 AM

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bremelo's

here in tennessee we just call them oprah

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 6:57 AM

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greasy

everytime i drink coors light straight from the can or bottle, it just tastes like rice, but if i pour on a glass, its not bad, just weird though.

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5 years 28 weeks ago, 9:16 AM

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Raffy

Yes my man Bud sold out 6 months or so ago

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schuyler

Winki a Bremelo, thats funny.

01*20*2013 Obamas last day!
5 years 28 weeks ago, 1:29 AM

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Clintlesbo, be careful taking our name in vain. You do not wish to call down the runawaygun thunder. I swear to the gods that if you bring my name into a conversation again I will...DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT!!!! Hah hah hah, you were scared for a while, huh? Okay, for a few seconds? How about for an instant? Well okay, but you had to pee, right? I'm really grasping here, aren't I? Oh, by the way REDNECKS SUCK EACH OTHER OFF!!! Nah, just kidding, but I could have said that and logged out permanently and had the last word. Think about that, kids. You never appreciate what you have until it's gone. Appreciate the aroma of runawaygun762. And now I'll go drink more of the Kool-aid and PLAY WITH MY GLOCK 34, BITCHES!!! I didn't mean that, I love you guys. No I don't. Yep. Whoo Wee, this is getting heated. No, I mean my pants. I just let a Taco Bell fart. It's getting hot in here.

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