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6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:11 PM

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Parents duel over whether girl should shoot BB gun

California judge to decide if 5-year-old is too young
May 8, 1997
Web posted at: 6:00 p.m. EDT

From Correspondent Jennifer Auther

LOS ANGELES (CNN) -- Two divorced California parents are dueling in court over whether their 5-year-old daughter should be taught to shoot a BB gun.

Nicole Fetter's father, Rodney, wants to train her how to shoot a Daisy Red Ryder BB gun. Her mother, Susan, is adamantly opposed to the idea, and she went to court to get a restraining order to prevent her ex-husband from letting the little girl shoot.

"I fear for her safety," says Susan Fetter. "She's my baby."

California law leaves it up to parents, or a legal guardian, to decide when, or if, a child learns to use a gun. With the Fetters in disagreement on this issue, a family court judge is set to make a final decision in June.

Rodney Fetter contends he's only passing along a family tradition. His grandfather was a gunsmith, and he, like his father, loves to hunt.

"It's in my life, and it always has been," he says. "I want to give her the opportunity to handle a gun, and it will make her safer too."

But Susan Fetter says Nicole's age is the key issue.

"She's only 5 years old, and she has no reasoning power to even [learn] about that right now," she says. "She's not ready for that. No 5-year-old would be."

An advertisement for the type of BB gun that Rodney Fetter wants to teach his daughter to use recommends it for people aged 10 to 100.

Outside advocates on both sides of the gun issue also have different takes on the parents' battle.

"There were 1,400 gun deaths in Los Angeles County alone; 236 of those gun deaths involved children; five of those children were 9 years old or younger," says Susan Shaw of Women Against Gun Violence.

"Every time that a child gets hurt with a gun, that's a tragedy. But the statistics show that if a child is introduced and taught to safely handle a gun by a parent, then the gun accident rate goes down as a result," says Chuck Michel of the California Rifle and Pistol Association. "That just makes common sense."

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:43 PM

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haters.... sam that article is over a decade old! where do you find this stuff?

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:51 PM

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I was 7

when this came out.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:53 PM

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was this article written about you?

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 2:54 PM

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Anyone know what the ruling was eleven years ago? I'm also wondering how many of those 1400 gun deaths in LA County were due to a BB gun? Oh, never mind!

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 3:20 PM

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No

why do you ask?

6 years 2 weeks ago, 3:32 PM

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geez Reaper

Give an old man a break. I didn't read the date, it came up in a google. Sorry if it put you out any, bringing up your childhood...lol

6 years 2 weeks ago, 8:15 PM

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teaching kids to shoot

i started my 2 kids early on red ryder bb guns.my son was 5(8 now)and my daughter was 7(10 now).they learned to properly operate the guns and how to safely shoot.when i got them the guns for christmas the grandparents(both sides)got on my case about how young they were and that they were not old enough to process the info about gun safety.i told them all to just watch and see.i had the kids shoot those bb guns for 2 years at various types of targets and distances.i even built a target that ran back and forth on a rope(moving target)at 50 feet!they both can still hit that target with them bb guns.well,last year in october i signed them up for Jr.Rifle League at our gun club.it is sanctioned thru both 4H and the NRA.they both know how to operate and handle their weapons due to the training they got with the bb guns.after a year in the rifle league,they both can shoot standing off hand,prone,kneeling and benchrest at 50 yards.both kids can place 10 shots from any of the positions or a mix inside a tennis ball sized area at 50 yards.i cant do this and am willing to bet that alot of adults couldnt do this from all the positions either!so as far as teaching them early i think it is the single biggest thing a parent can teach their children!not to mention that you wont see my kids on the news or in the newspapers either dead or in jail for shooting their friends or being shot while playing with a gun.i have four children and so far i have done well with the older 2 conserning firearm safety and training.i have a 4 year old son and my 16 month old daughter to go.i have begun to teach my 4 yr old gun safety using his NERF double barrel shotgun(shoots foam darts).even at his age he has started to GET IT!the interesting thing is i grew up in a home where dad had a handgun(22)but we didnt go shooting or hunting or anything gun related.when i was 8 or 9 my uncle gave me his old mossberg 22 rifle and a subscription to Guns and Ammo for christmas,so i am strictly self taught with no formal firearms training other than hunters education but i went on to instill safe gun hadling in my children.i want them to appreciate these fine tools no differently than a socket set or a nail gun.

6 years 2 weeks ago, 12:45 AM

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Fathers rights?

This is another example of the left's need to weaken our kids until they are all a bunch of pussies. My daughters will know how to survive before they leave my house whether they like it or not. Fish, hunt everything...

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6 years 2 weeks ago, 1:03 AM

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plus, I have been teaching my nephew to shoot since he was 6 and the first time we took him out to the gun range he was only 1 1/2 years old. He love it and got mad when we ran out of ammo. Never to young to learn and if you say your child is to young maybe you need to learn.

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6 years 1 week ago, 12:39 PM

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Sound reasoning here

Having moved from California, I can provide you with the "enlightened reasoning" behind the bb gun epidemic. I think we all know that bb guns are a gateway weapon that can only lead to a .22 cal. The message clearly states that if you teach gun safety to a minor, you're really teaching them that guns are toys to be played with. Then a .22 cal is not enough to satisfy the surgeing appitite of a homicidal pre-teen. Before you know it they've joined a militia, manufactured explosives, and then get recruited by Habib who shows him/her just a fantacstic way to get to "paradise" and hook up with all the virgins. So if you let you kid use, play, or be made aware of a BB gun, they're probably just going to become a Jihadist so better that we just not talk about it at all.
I mean what are the alternatives. Being responsible parents?? Come on folks, let's get real.

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6 years 1 week ago, 1:13 PM

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Tack, man I hope

you are kidding with all that enlightened reasoning stuff. Teaching a child to use a firearm early and often instills a respect and a love of leagal gun ownership. When the time is right and he shows the proper maturity, I will teach my 9 year old the proper handling of a firearm, starting with a BB gun and moving up to a .22, then a 20 gauge. The ONLY reason that I haven't done it already is that he is extremely hyperactive and can not concentrate on the task at hand long enough to be safe with a weapon. He also lacks the maturity to handle a gun as of yet. I am waiting for the day that he is ready.

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6 years 1 week ago, 1:21 PM

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Good job BluesHarp

Good job BluesHarp. Tack if you agree with the Californians then you are a Liberal. Gun safty teaches responsibility and respect.

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6 years 1 week ago, 3:11 PM

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Guys, I'm sorry if my

Guys, I'm sorry if my sarcasm didn't come accross the way it was intended! That was supposed to be a shot at people who would rather blame the gun than the person. I am a proud owner of several firearms and a proud father of three young children. The views expressed in my prior post were a PARODY. But I have to say, you guys must be pretty tolerant here. If I saw a post like that and thought the guy might be serious I'd jump all over him! It just seems like too many people like these folks with the bb gun keep popping up in articles, new and old, and I get tired of it. The only thing I took offense to is when I was called a liberal. No one has ever called me that before and man, that really hurt.

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6 years 1 week ago, 3:18 PM

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I wonder if the majority of people who post in here are comedians in real life and then come here and take everything seriously as a way to unwind from a hard day of using their sense of humor at work. I was joking, by the way. I don't actually think everyone here is a comedian in real life. But some in here are amusing, especially when they're trying to be serious.

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This is no joking matter!!!! Let me see your war face!!!

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6 years 1 week ago, 3:28 PM

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just common sense

I agree that introducing your children to properly use a gun is an excellent idea. As long as the mentality is there, if the child understands that what they are being taught is serious then fine, if not then try again next year. It is better for them to know then to find one and explore on their own. Also, given that the parents are responsible, the guns will have child locks on them and unloaded if there are kids in the house. Guns shouldnt get a bad rap no matter who is involved. they dont kill people on their own.

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I'm a princess from Narnia, apparently

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