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4 years 16 weeks ago, 3:33 PM

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Some people have been a bit offended that the actor, Lee Marvin, is buried in a grave alongside 3- and 4-star generals at Arlington National Cemetery His marker gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC). Nothing else. Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer:

I always liked Lee Marvin, but didn't know the extent of his Corps experiences.

In a time when many Hollywood stars served their country in the armed forces often in rear echelon posts where they were carefully protected, only to be trotted out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo Jima . There is only one higher Naval award... The Medal Of Honor!

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater show of bravery.

Dialog from 'The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson': His guest was Lee Marvin Johnny said, 'Lee, I'll bet a lot of people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial landing at Iwo Jima .and that during the course of that action you earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded.
'Yeah, yeah... I got shot square in the bottom and they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about halfway up Suribachi. Bad thing about getting shot up on a mountain is guys getting' shot hauling you down. But,Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest man I ever knew... We both got the Cross the same day, but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in comparison. That dumb guy actually stood up on Red beach and directed his troops to move forward and get the hell off the beach. Bullets flying by, with mortar rounds landing everywhere and he stood there as the main target of gunfire so that he could get his men to safety. He did this on more than one occasion because his men's safety was more important than his own life.

That Sergeant and I have been lifelong friends. When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the Sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying on my belly on the litter and said, 'Where'd they get you Lee?' 'Well Bob....... If you make it home before me, tell Mom to sell the outhouse!' Johnny, I'm not lying, Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest man I ever knew.

The Sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan. You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo....'
On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who just passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of those you would least suspect of being anything but what he now portrays to our youth. But Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat-proven in Vietnam with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeved sweater on TV, to cover the many tattoos on his forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never harm another human and also dedicating the rest of his life to trying to help lead children on the right path in life.. He hid away the tattoos and his past life and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm. America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did; they quietly go about their day-to-day lives, doing what they do best. They earned our respect and the freedoms that we all enjoy.
Look around and see if you can find one of those heroes in your midst.
Often, they are the ones you'd least suspect, but would most like to have on your side if anything ever happened.

Take the time to thank anyone that has fought for our freedom.. With encouragement they could be the next Captain Kangaroo or Mr. Rogers.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 3:47 PM

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Well done Hamp..

i've heard both storys before, (Capt. kangaroo, and mr Rogers) but honestly was not that Marvin had been awarded the Navy Cross.. So true about how most people who are genuine heros are not the first ones to blow thier own horn.. great post.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 5:11 PM

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 4:57 PM

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Great post, Hampster

I've been fortunate to know some of the men who were real heroes in WWII, Korea and Viet Nam. Except for one guy who was a career NCO, they all came home to their families, put their medals away (if they kept them at all), and went back to civilian life, obeying the law, raising a family, becoming respected, productive citizens. None of them would discuss their combat experiences except with other people who'd been in combat. They would talk about other aspects of their time in the military, but not the combat. All of them were quiet men, but all could become completely and totally dangerous when threatened, and deadly if their families were threatened.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 6:14 PM

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machine gunner of the Japanese variety. He got the Purple Heart for it.
Bob Keeshan joined the Marines in 1945 and did not get to deploy over seas.
Fred Rogers did not serve, during most of the VN war he was working at a TV station in Canada.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 6:59 PM

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My bad,

I guess that I did not research enough, ecamen's post says it all, those who served in battle were unassuming types, unwilling to talk about "battle" with those not involved, my dad was like that, it wasn't until just before he died that he spoke of such things. I thought that kinda wierd since I had never heard such stories before (in my life), I guess I found out why.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 7:40 PM

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Navy Cross, and never fought on Iwo Jima

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:03 PM

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Yes, so I gather,

my sincere apologies to all GUNSLOT members, I was wrong in posting what I did and will not do so again, until I am home from work and can research such matters much more thoroughly, I stand corrected.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:15 PM

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excitement sometimes:<)

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:22 PM

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I went to snopes et all and saw the error of my ways....LOL

Hells bells, I was born in 69', what the hell do I know about Lee Marvin, other than I enjoyed most of his movies.....as far as Mr. Rogers and Cpt. Kangaroo, I thought them a bit scary as a kid...maybe I am a pussy....not!.........It is all good DC.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:25 PM

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I though Mr. Rogers was kind of a fruit, The Captain too :<)

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:39 PM

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Well bro, the

Kids have kids now and they are learning to shoot......Be afraid, very afraid....I am!....LOL!

I am the RO on our outings into the Desert (that means I don't get to shoot), but we have fun.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 8:51 PM

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designated driver huh? Everyone comes to you later to find out if they had a good time LOL
I have my wife's G-Kids here often and I will TRY to teach them some of the essentials of punching holes in bullseye targets.
I can hear it now; "Aw, come on grampa, lets shoot glass bottles, it's cool watching them shatter all over YOUR yard".

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 9:02 PM

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Last Sunday, I found myself loading two 30rd mags for the AK, two 30 rd mags and one 20rd mag for the AR and 10 rd and 6 rd mags for my 9mm pistols, and we won't mention the .22 mosquito (sore subject)....anyhoo, I managed shoot off a few hundred rds of my own, life is good.

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 9:12 PM

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think I'll go ponder that for awhile. Later...

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4 years 16 weeks ago, 9:20 PM

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Catch ya' on the flip side, G'night, DC.

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