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5 years 27 weeks ago, 5:15 PM

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Permit-holding gun owners don’t threaten parks
Saturday, January 3, 2009

Our view: The law-abiding folks with concealed carry permits are not going to spark a crime wave at the campgrounds.

Nobody could expect gun-control advocates to like rules that make it easier to carry concealed weapons. It's just not in their DNA.

But the reaction by some opponents of a U.S. Interior Department rule allowing concealed-weapons permit holders to carry in national parks is just out of touch with reality.

The Brady Campaign, which is suing to block the rule, said it would "jeopardize the safety of park visitors." Sen. Dianne Feinstein wrote in a an Op-Ed that "park visitors expect a safe and enjoyable experience - not loaded guns and stray bullets."

Nobody wants to see shootouts over campsites at Manzanita Lake, but is there any evidence that permit holders are likely to engage in such dangerous activity? By definition, they're law-abiding citizens who've paid fees and subjected themselves to fingerprinting and background checks.

Shasta County is a gun-friendly place, where about 2,500 residents hold active concealed-weapon permits from the Sheriff's Department - a very high number, by California standards, for the size of the county. Even still, Sheriff Tom Bosenko said Friday that he couldn't recall a single gun-related crime by a permit holder in over 30 years. "We issue them to responsible people," he said.

The people to worry about are the ones who carry concealed weapons without a permit, whatever the law says. And frankly, park rangers don't search cars at the entrance stations. They don't stop and frisk backpackers. Compliance with the law is largely on the honor system. Parks are as safe as they are mainly because crooks don't like camping.

Hikers have little reason to pack a firearm in Lassen. And, heck, who wants the extra weight?

But if they're inclined to do so, amply vetted concealed weapons permit holders are the last people we need to fear.

Our view: The law-abiding folks with concealed-carry permits are not going to spark a crime wave at the campgrounds.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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Lots of bears and lions. These areas talked about here are all within a 2hr. drive of where I grew up so I know the basic types of people around there. It's the part of Ca. that Gov. Pete Wilson called, "The wilderness of extreme Northern California." samD, where did you get this article from? It's a highly conservative lowley populated area with the exception of portions of Shasta county because of the City of Redding.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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It was in

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 8:07 PM

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When I hike with my kids I carry my Glock 21 with federal law enforcement ammo. It is illegal to carry in NY in state parks which includes the federal wetlands. Its concealed but fuck it- I would rather go to jail for protecting my family from a bear or mountain lion or criminal than live with them ever getting hurt.

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5 years 27 weeks ago, 1:58 AM

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carry in parks

here in washington,methamphetamine cooks like to set up in the outlying parks.well,these are the parks that i like to take my family camping to.they are secluded and far from the nearest town which makes it difficult for law enforcement to find the time to patrol them.i always carry something and we keep a shotgun in the tent with us that is loaded with buckshot and slugs.

5 years 27 weeks ago, 10:11 AM

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The Park Service

rarely warns you of the dangers in these Parks. In So Arizona we have all the mules carrying Pot and well armed. They will have 20 or 30 in a pack using the Park Trails and for rendezvous points. But God forbid, that I legally carry a gun to defend myself...

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