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2 years 15 weeks ago, 9:51 AM

Saint J.M. Browning

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Not that I think anything will come of it, but it is nice to kick around:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/peacefully-grant-state-texas-w...

"I don't think Hank done it this way" - Waylon
2 years 15 weeks ago, 5:08 PM

MattyTheJet

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Texas

And a lot of other states from what I'm reading. This is wild, almost too much to comprehend.

1 year 5 weeks ago, 8:35 AM

Saint J.M. Browning

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Update on secession

I haven't looked for a while. The WH responded to this. Not surprisingly, it's response was to trust the system and just hang on for more change:

Official White House Response to Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government.
Our States Remain United
By Jon Carson
Thank you for using the White House's online petitions platform to participate in your government.
In a nation of 300 million people -- each with their own set of deeply-held beliefs -- democracy can be noisy and controversial. And that's a good thing. Free and open debate is what makes this country work, and many people around the world risk their lives every day for the liberties we often take for granted.
But as much as we value a healthy debate, we don't let that debate tear us apart.
Our founding fathers established the Constitution of the United States "in order to form a more perfect union" through the hard and frustrating but necessary work of self-government. They enshrined in that document the right to change our national government through the power of the ballot -- a right that generations of Americans have fought to secure for all. But they did not provide a right to walk away from it. As President Abraham Lincoln explained in his first inaugural address in 1861, "in contemplation of universal law and of the Constitution the Union of these States is perpetual." In the years that followed, more than 600,000 Americans died in a long and bloody civil war that vindicated the principle that the Constitution establishes a permanent union between the States. And shortly after the Civil War ended, the Supreme Court confirmed that "[t]he Constitution, in all its provisions, looks to an indestructible Union composed of indestructible States."
Although the founders established a perpetual union, they also provided for a government that is, as President Lincoln would later describe it, "of the people, by the people, and for the people" -- all of the people. Participation in, and engagement with, government is the cornerstone of our democracy. And because every American who wants to participate deserves a government that is accessible and responsive, the Obama Administration has created a host of new tools and channels to connect concerned citizens with White House. In fact, one of the most exciting aspects of the We the People platform is a chance to engage directly with our most outspoken critics.
So let's be clear: No one disputes that our country faces big challenges, and the recent election followed a vigorous debate about how they should be addressed. As President Obama said the night he won re-election, "We may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply and we care so strongly about its future."
Whether it's figuring out how to strengthen our economy, reduce our deficit in a responsible way, or protect our country, we will need to work together -- and hear from one another -- in order to find the best way to move forward. I hope you'll take a few minutes to learn more about the President's ideas and share more of your own.
Jon Carson is Director of the Office of Public Engagement

I've commented on this with:

All the petitions I've found here show this site is just to placate the people's anger at this administration's lack of respect for the US and its constitution and its refusal to hear the voice of anyone who disagrees with its agenda.

"I don't think Hank done it this way" - Waylon
51 weeks 6 days ago, 1:59 PM

Nutty Basterd

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Interesting

I must admit it is interesting how they composed this response. I don't even find it placating. Quite the opposite in fact. Using historical quotes from another desperate time in our nations history to simply point a finger at the signers of the petition. It may as well have read as the following.

"Thank you for participating in this petition. But guess what. DENIED! The only reason you're unhappy is because you are a quitter. Yes instead of working together you want to quit and leave. Well too bad! We ain't letting you :P"

I think the most disappointing part of the this response is the unsaid things. No where in there do they address that they may be concerned that people want to secede. I find the entire thing to be incrediblely disheartening. We should put some sort of countdown for the en of this presidents final term.

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