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4 years 47 weeks ago, 12:24 AM

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If you are ever in the Tucson, AZ area and you fail to go to this museum, shame on you. I'm an army guy, not really into aircraft much, but this place is absolutely amazing. I challenge any red-blooded American man to walk into the 390th Bombardment Group Memorial hanger with the B17 exhibit and be able to walk out of there dry-eyed. If you do, you either have more self-control than I, or you have never served a cause greater than yourself. There was a B17 named "G.I. Wonder" and I am going to attempt to contact any of the surviving crew members, if there are any, and ask for the honor of naming my HMMWV on my next deployment after that aircraft. I am also going to find out if they will allow me to be part of the honor guard during their next reunion. Like most reunions, they have an honor guard transport a folded flag into the room and place it in an empty chair in remembrance of those not present for roll call. I know modern aircrews are in a world of hurt if they are shot down in indian territory, but those airmen of that war were truly something. Standing in a lightly clad tube, unable to break formation, just taking whatever AA fire or intercept fighters the enemy had to offer with only machine guns and hopefully escort fighters to protect them. This is stuff I already knew, but it had a much more profound impact on me when I walked into that exhibit and saw the numbers of WIA and KIA and the numbers of missions some of these aircraft flew.

"I have always been a soldier. I have known no other life. The calling of arms, I have followed from boyhood. I have never sought another." From The Virtues of War, by Steven Pressfield.
4 years 47 weeks ago, 9:59 AM

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sounds good

im planning on hooking up with a girl in az(no i wont post pics cuz uncle samd will try to steal her again LOL) and when i get there ill pay a visit to the museum.

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!
4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:01 AM

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Absolutely

A great place to visit...I had similar reactions when I visited Ground Zero in New York and The USS Arizona Memorial at Pearl Harbor...very moving.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:02 AM

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Pkato

when were ya at ground zero, last time i was there i was with my ex, it was a hard thing for me to see, cuz i spent many school field trips goin inside the towers.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:05 AM

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Been to Pima in Tucson

Wonderful. Have not been to USS Arizona memorial or the Wall in DC. Were talking about going east this summer if all works out, and want to show the Wife Arlington, and see the wall.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:09 AM

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I went to Arlington last year also, of course all of DC is great to see, unless of course you run across the Prez and his cronies...haha. The other things you should definitely see in DC is the new AF Memorial, Iwo Jima Memorial and the Holocaust Museum...all very interesting.

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:11 AM

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I was able to see the wall in '90 when I was stationed at Lakehurst, NJ for a spell. BUT!! When I walked among the heroes at Arlington cemetary....indescribable...amazing.

"I prefer peace. But if trouble must come, let it come in my time, so that my children live in peace." Thomas Payne- Revolutionist
4 years 47 weeks ago, 10:21 AM

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I saw Arlington when i was a kid, and still remember it. I was stationed at pax river and we usta go up to DC for liberty. This was befoe the Wall, so looking fwd to seeing it. I bet Lakehurst was neat. the big hangers, I remember the ones at great lakes were huge, and think Lakehurst is bigger!
See ya guys later gota go for now..

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 11:26 AM

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I was at Ground Zero

in 2006, just after my retirment...moving, however of special interest is the smaller memorial setup inside the AMEX building which is adjacent to GZ, wow...brought tears to my eyes and I had to sit down and breathe deeply in order to get myself calmed down. The best thing was that the tours of GZ and surrounding area were given by everyday New Yorkers, volunteers , who had some special connection to the event. Check out the small museum adjacent to GZ also...moving, especially the basement where kids put up all types of messages and debris from the towers is hosted. Of course the adjacent fire station is of interest also...stop by, shake their hands, this fire department lost a lot of people! Just an amazing thing to see...if you have kids who were too young to remember the tragedy of 9/11, take them there, make it a priority to take your kids there and let them see the devastation. I would also like to someday visit Omaha Beach and some of the memorials/grave sites in Europe...

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4 years 47 weeks ago, 11:54 AM

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pkato

i know the feeling, ive taken friends and family who hasnt been there and everytime im at ground zero, i always get tears down my eyes with a bit of anger, 9/11 is the pearl harbor of my generation, and new york is my turf!

I'm just another damn yankee with a loaded gun looking for some fun!

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