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6 years 21 weeks ago, 4:24 PM

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I know everybody has their favorites and I'm supposed to go shoot a bunch and see how they feel... but I'd like everyone's input anyway!

I'm a total newbie getting a handgun primarily for concealed carry. It may be used for home defense if needed, but we're getting a shotgun for that, so concealed carry would be the primary function. Money is always an issue but I'm smart enough to know that my life is worth a few extra hundred bucks, if necessary. :)

I am a 5'1 female and, although I don't like a lot of recoil (who does?), I'm not a total wimp either. I can take some kick, just not too much. I do have carpal tunnel and arthritis, so the gun needs to be on the lighter side of things. (I held one 2-1/2 pound .45 that just about snapped my tendons clean through.)

Some that caught my eye at the store were the S&W M&P Compact and the Kel-Tec PF9. I liked their weight and the grip.

Also, still trying to decide if a single-action or double-action would be better for my situation.

Would love to hear your comments and suggestions!!

6 years 21 weeks ago, 4:36 PM

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Texas? Dont they issue you a gun when you turn 8 years old? Just kidding, but I do like your taste in firearms already. I happen to love the Smith&Wesson M&P line of pistols/AR's. They have been Praised for there durability and reliability. So if you like the wieght and feel of it, then I guess you are all ready intuned to my suggestions.
As for the Action, I always had the train of thought that if its for personal protection, when you pull it on someone you'll be a little frieghtened. So get the double action...its not to much harder to pull but that little extra pull could keep you from doing something "not-so kosher" if you know what I mean.

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6 years 21 weeks ago, 5:05 PM

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LOL, I wish we were issued guns at age 8!! I do love the laws in this state though. Hope they stay that way...

Thanks for your comments! I was leaning towards the double action anyway, but kept hearing that SA is "faster" and "more accurate", blah blah blah. I figure it's only more accurate if you're the type who doesn't practice regularly, right?

I did like that M&P line, even more than the similar Glocks that I was shown.

6 years 21 weeks ago, 5:15 PM

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Agreed, and SA really is faster and more accurate...if your a trained cop or competetive shooter. But for a young lady carring a gun to keep the goons at bay (and to conform to the Texas stereotype) the double action may prevent an accidental discharge...and we all know no one likes those ;)

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6 years 21 weeks ago, 1:02 PM

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What's your take on the Glock 26 ("Baby Glock")?
I have had two different LEO friends recommend it to me, independent of each other, but I haven't fired it or even held it.

I did finally find a range somewhat near me so I hope to get out there in the next week or so. They have a Ladies' Night with half-price goodies. :)

6 years 21 weeks ago, 8:57 PM

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TexasChaos wrote:
What's your take on the Glock 26 ("Baby Glock")?

I really enjoy Glocks A LOT myself and that would probably be a reasonable gun to start out on. The 26 is a bit small for my hands, but it may suit you much better. And since it's a 9mm you should be able to control it pretty well. I would definitely check it out.

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6 years 21 weeks ago, 1:01 PM

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Thanks, Quinton. Come to think of it, I haven't talked to anybody who doesn't like Glocks. They seem to be much loved. I remember first hearing about them in the movie "U.S. Marshals" where Tommy Lee Jones talked about how cool they are. I know - don't believe movies - but I'm a Tommy Lee fan (he reminds me so much of my dad).

Anyway, I am thinking a 9mm would be better for me than a .40. The Kahr CW9 has caught my attention lately too, so it looks like I've got three to try out.

Should I care about barrel rifling and length of twist??

6 years 21 weeks ago, 2:29 PM

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you know glocks are great and loved by all but i still got to recommend the Springfeild Armory XD, great little peice. try it out with the others three you got, as far as rifling goes, rifling is there for accuracy, i wouldnt say it has much "kick" difference.

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6 years 21 weeks ago, 3:46 PM

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pistol

get a pistol.

6 years 20 weeks ago, 1:07 PM

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Thanks, sytasyn_syn

I will check out the Springfield Armory XD also. I am planning to get to the range tonight (but this day is proving to be a little difficult). I think they only have a Springfield 1911 for rental, but they are adding rentals all the time, so maybe they have gotten an XD since my list was updated.

6 years 20 weeks ago, 8:46 PM

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get a colt M1911 or SpringField M1911A1 those are real guns not some wussy 9MM

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 10:02 PM

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How 'bout I fire a few

How 'bout I fire a few rounds at you with a 9mm and see if you still think they're wussy then.

I'm trying to CONCEAL it, remember??? And I'm not some huge dude who wears baggy pants. Think tiny little female who lives in Texas, where it gets 105 degrees and people wear tank tops and shorts.

6 years 20 weeks ago, 1:39 PM

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I fired the Glock 26 last night and enjoyed it thoroughly. Very smooth, very tolerable recoil, and very hard to screw up! The only issue is that it is a bit too large for my grip (and a bit too bulky for easy concealment). I can see why there are so many Glock fans out there.

This range had very few of the smaller guns for rental, so I did not get to try out the Springfield XD, S&W M&P, or any of the other ones I was hoping to actually try out. I also want to have a look at a Ruger LCP... any opinions there?

Deciding must be half the fun!!

6 years 20 weeks ago, 4:30 PM

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Maybe SR9

Now I dont know too much about it yet because I have not been able to see it for my self but I have herad the Ruger SR9(I did a write-up on it) is a very slim profile handgun, you might hold it once or twice...let me know how it is if you get to fire it.

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 1:52 PM

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love that .45

have you ever fired a .45 it is the best thing ever when you shoot a pop can and watch the holl thing exploed. or shoot a car and see it go in one door and out the other door with no stoping. it makes you fell like a real hard a s s.

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6 years 20 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

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Don't need a .45, though I'm sure it's a blast (bad pun intended). A 9mm would do just fine, especially if I use hollow point ammo. Don't need to feel like "a real hard a s s" either. I'm not in this for a show of bravado -- "Ooh, look at me, I have a black belt!" But yes, .45s are quite effective and a favorite among my WWII veteran relatives.

6 years 19 weeks ago, 4:41 PM

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i like sigs

have you tried a glock 19 or sig p229 in 9mm? You could always go up to the glock 23 or .40 in the sig... but 9mm is more than enough if you are accurate. also golck offers the compensated or "C" models whcih help with recoil.

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 4:55 PM

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ME.IM GOING WITH THE STOEGER COUGER.9MM. IT FEELS LIGHT IN MY HAND . ITS BASICALLY A BERRETTA 92. FOR 399.00 IT COMES WITH 2-15 ROUND MAGS AND SHOOTS VERY SMOOTH.SHOT ONE THE OTHER DAY AND LOVED IT. 3.6 INCH BARREL MAKES A NICE CONCEALED GUN.GREAT PRICE TOO.

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 2:52 PM

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Ebear, I am vaguely familiar with the Cougar. It's fairly heavy for a small female hand though -- 2 pounds, I think? Nice choice, though - I know several people who really like the way it handles.

6 years 19 weeks ago, 5:13 PM

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well good luck on whatever you choose. you've certainly done your research

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 3:02 PM

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Reaper308, thanks for the suggestions. I looked at the Glock 19, but preferred the slightly smaller and lighter Glock 26. Same for the Sig P229 - it's just a bit bulky for my hands. The guy at the range sure raved about Sigs though. He also really liked Rugers, Walthers, and H&K in terms of "high-end" firearms.

He sighed when a woman came in with a Kel-Tec and mentioned to me later that he had never seen a Kel-Tec last more than 500 rounds, or go more than 50 without jamming at least once. I like talking to the folks at the range because they aren't trying to sell the guns, but they see how different ones hold up over time and varying conditions. Good source of info... and some good stories too!

6 years 19 weeks ago, 9:26 AM

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No laughing now... I know it's tiny... but anybody got any thoughts on the Kahr PM9? I am quite intrigued by what I've read and heard, but I can't find any around here to test out.

6 years 19 weeks ago, 3:52 PM

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This Might Help

http://www.gunslot.com/guns/pm-9
Now remember our talk about double action

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6 years 18 weeks ago, 5:21 AM

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Bersa Thunder 380

Have you thought about a Bersa Thunder 380? It's a compact little 380 with a manual safety/decocker that would be a great first gun for a CCW. When my better half got her CWP, that gun was recommended to her...she shot it and loved it. It's her carry pistol of choice now and she's very accurate with it at the range.

6 years 19 weeks ago, 10:40 AM

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lmao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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6 years 15 weeks ago, 7:06 AM

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new gun

KEL-TEC P-32 or a Bersa 380 great conceraled carry guns.

6 years 15 weeks ago, 1:23 PM

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kel-tec?

KEL-TEC is like buying the off brand of cigerettes or beer, just a bad choice and one you will regret until you disguard the damn thing

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6 years 13 weeks ago, 1:16 PM

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Your right about that

If you want something for carry. You want quality. To me a kal tec is a throw away

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6 years 13 weeks ago, 1:23 PM

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agree

agree

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6 years 12 weeks ago, 2:21 PM

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go on and buy one of the best and keep it the rest of your life then pass it on down to next of kin you will save a lot of money by not trading or buying other firearms go to their web site . these guns are expensive but are the best quality guns you can buy made in america! what else can yoy say.

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6 years 12 weeks ago, 2:12 PM

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having shot the heck out of my KEL TEC P11 I have never had a jam ftf,and it has had more round put thru it than I can count
donnot limp wrist, get the hadall jr cover and the mag ext. and by all means the belt clip and you will have a fine ccw if kept clean as you need to do with any ccw
IF you do have trouble with it they will fix it for a lifetime
10 rnds. 9mm plus the 14 oz empty weight = light carry with firepower
good luck be safe
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6 years 12 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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Try a baby eagle

Try a baby eagle

6 years 12 weeks ago, 4:52 PM

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TexasChaos wrote:
I know everybody has their favorites and I'm supposed to go shoot a bunch and see how they feel... but I'd like everyone's input anyway!

I'm a total newbie getting a handgun primarily for concealed carry. It may be used for home defense if needed, but we're getting a shotgun for that, so concealed carry would be the primary function. Money is always an issue but I'm smart enough to know that my life is worth a few extra hundred bucks, if necessary. :)

I am a 5'1 female and, although I don't like a lot of recoil (who does?), I'm not a total wimp either. I can take some kick, just not too much. I do have carpal tunnel and arthritis, so the gun needs to be on the lighter side of things. (I held one 2-1/2 pound .45 that just about snapped my tendons clean through.)

Some that caught my eye at the store were the S&W M&P Compact and the Kel-Tec PF9. I liked their weight and the grip.

Also, still trying to decide if a single-action or double-action would be better for my situation.

Would love to hear your comments and suggestions!!check out the kahr arms hand guns. the k-9 my wife loved hers. and the sig 232 .380 in alloy frame. you'll love it too!

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