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6 years 5 weeks ago, 3:52 PM

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Hi guys, does anyone else have basic wisdom they can share about guns, tactics, and proper techniques for shooting or shootouts?

i found this posted somewhere and i liked it. though this may be old news to some, it was news to me.

Thanks,
BiteDog

Marine Corps Rules:
1. Be courteous to everyone, friendly to no one.
2. Decide to be aggressive enough, quickly enough.
3. Have a plan.
4. Have a back-up plan, because the first one probably won't work.
5. Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.
6. Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a '4.'
7. Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive.
8. Move away from your attacker. Distance is your friend. (Lateral & diagonal preferred.)
9. Use cover or concealment as much as possible.
10. Flank your adversary when possible. Protect yours.
11. Always cheat; always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose.
12. In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance, or tactics. They will only remember who lived.
13. If you are not shooting, you should be communicating your intention to shoot.

6 years 5 weeks ago, 4:34 PM

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I believe you found it

I believe you found it here.
http://www.gunslot.com/forum/whatsup-everyone

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 7:26 PM

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I believe you are right. 1 point for syn

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 7:38 PM

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plagerism is not the way to play on GunsLot!

6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:16 PM

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Read what i said

greasypaws wrote:
plagerism is not the way to play on GunsLot!

Greasy, i appreciate that you and other guys here have much class and respect, but i explicitly said i did not come up with that. i thought it was helpful, i printed it, and later posted it as an example -but never did I claim it as my own. i forgot where i found it but sytasyn_syn went ahead an posted the link.

SO...will you guys get back on topic and help me with some good tactics and training tips, or is this going to be another wasted thread that turns in to lowbrow banter?

Seriously, i want to know stuff so cut me some slack, otherwise i will be forced to responded with plagerized fat jokes, yo mama's, or the classic "suck my nuts!" that greasy put so well in the President-elect Obama N.S.F thread.

thanks,
bitedog

6 years 5 weeks ago, 9:54 AM

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They were jokes, Don't take them so seriously!

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 7:55 PM

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 8:07 PM

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Yours? You sure?

Yours? You sure?

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:25 PM

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Bitedog

Sorry, we started off on the wrong foot. Want are you wanting to know, and I will see if I can help you?

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:38 PM

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left foot right foot

fordvg wrote:
Sorry, we started off on the wrong foot. Want are you wanting to know, and I will see if I can help you?

no worries, im the one who should say sorry. if you havent knoticed i dont always make a clear sentence or a good impression! plus i was a jack ass in my introduction!

6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:46 PM

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Well, all is forgiven

I thing most places teach and I hate it is, will you change a mag they want you to put the empty mag in your mag holder instead of dropping it to the ground. They say, the bad guy could use the ammo from your mag to kill you with it. Well, when I drop the mag it will be empty or have one round in it. Plus, what is the chance that the bad guy is going to be shooting the same caliber gun. I firgue that it is easier to buy a new mag if I lose it that losing my our life.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:30 PM

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lets talk about ammo

is there any kind of guidelines on amounts of ammo you should have/carry?

what about reloading a magazine under fire?

6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:36 PM

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Ok, about ammo

No, there is no guidelines on how much ammo to carry. Me, I would have at lease 3 magazines. The old saying "better to have and not need, than to need and not have". Try not to ever reload under fire, if you have to reload find cover and then reloaded.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:39 PM

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fordvg

were you ever in the service?

6 years 5 weeks ago, 12:11 AM

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bitedog, you still here?

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6 years 5 weeks ago, 12:38 AM

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yes

yes...oh, uh... i mean. sir, yes sir!?

6 years 5 weeks ago, 11:51 PM

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Yes, US Marine Corps

Yes, US Marine Corps back in 1985 to 1986 got out because of a injury. I shot USPSA matches for 8 years and was a NRA personal defence teacher for a year. Been to a couple of school to learn more and would like to go and take my wife and have her learned some with her too.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
6 years 5 weeks ago, 12:55 AM

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dang man...

Thats an impressive resume fordvg. i have thought i would enjoy joining something like the USPSA. at one time i considered myself a good pistol marksman, however last week at the range was dissapointing. i havent been in a while, or shot targets, and have just been shooting bottles. anyways, i just got a new .40 cal Walther P99 and if my shaky hand is gone i may see whats going on around here with the USPSA.

6 years 5 weeks ago, 1:29 AM

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I also was a Range Officer for USPSA for 6 years and I shoot in 3 gun matches and run & gun matches where we use IPSC rules, but you are shooting AR-15 in stages of fire like you would when you are shooting USPSA or IPSC. Plus, I shot in sniper matches and got to shoot in a couple long ranges matches.

"WAR IS A RACKET, I spent most of my time being a high-class muscle-man for Big Business, for Wall Street, and for the Bankers." Major-General Smedley Darlington Butler USMC Ret. 2 time Medal of Honor winner.
6 years 5 weeks ago, 9:23 PM

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Nice to meet ya. My name is Solid Snake. I can Help you with sniper ammo and rifles. just ask my friend.

6 years 3 weeks ago, 5:59 AM

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Mr. Bitedog......

I can think of no better mentor for guns, gun handling and tactics than Marine Col. John Dean, "Jeff" Cooper, whose writings and opinions constitute a veritable bible for gun owners/patriots.

I would recommend you search his name in Google, and be prepared to study some of the BEST wisdom available. There is none better.
I suggest that you start with his "Color Code of Mental Awareness" so that you are way ahead of most people who carry for self defense.

Jeff Cooper founded the now famous "Gunsite" school [Arizona], and was the mentor of Dr. I. Piazza, founder of the now, equally famous "Front Sight" school
[Nevada].

For all of us who jealously guard our Second Amendment rights and our inherent right of self defense, there can be NO BETTER role model.

When you have exhausted Cooper's contributions, I recommend you study the writings of Massad Ayoob, to get the details of your potential liability, prior to "the gunfight".

Last BUT NOT LEAST--Learn the Tueller Drill !!!!!

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]
6 years 2 weeks ago, 9:09 AM

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1) Gunfighting is a very risky business. You risk everything, and you DO NOT win ANYTHING.......You just get to KEEP what you already had.

2) If it is not worth killing or dying for--it is not worth fighting for.

3) If you have to THINK ABOUT whether or not you are justified in shooting,
you probably should NOT shoot.

Have YOU decided upon your OWN moral/ethical basis
for the use of DEADLY FORCE?

You probably will need to be able to explain that
VERY CLEARLY--

After the gunfight.

Too old to fight, Too old to run, guess that's why I carry a gun! "would someone show this asshole the way out of town".[Rabbi Avram Belinski-aka "The Frisco Kid"]

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