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5 years 17 weeks ago, 11:40 AM

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My dad resently bought a para hi-cap hawg 9, and I was the worse gun ive ever shot. It wouldn’t fire 3 round without jamming. We went back where we got the gun “new” and told the guy about it, and he said it just needed to have rounds run through it. This guy was who me, my dad, uncle, and coz, and friends took our ccw classes from. I forced the gun to fire 200 to 300 round of different kinds of ammo through it all the was up to power balls through and nothing helped. He already traded the gun in for a glock 26 witch performs much better. Was that just a defective gun or do all para’s suck?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:42 PM

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smithw45 about para

I have owned and shoot a few para's and never had a problem with them. Was you shooting reloads or factory ammo?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:10 PM

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factory all differnt brands

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 3:33 PM

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Like reaper and the guy you bought the gun off you do need to break in the gun. The feed ramp can be smooth down to help with feeding and like reaper said the mags can be a problem too.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 2:44 PM

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not all paras "suck". Most 1911's need a break-in period of about 500 rounds or so. Feeding and stovepipe problems are pretty common with new 1911's. My guess is that the problem would have corrected itself if you would have given it a couple hundred more rounds, but who knows. It could have been a mag problem also. The G26 will shoot good right out of the box.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 5:20 PM

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I followed the lubrication and breakin directions exactly as the manual stated, and I had no problems at all. I find this to be an excellent compact 9mm concealed carry pistol, that is very easy to carry, has a superior trigger, and a barrel that is of such good quality, that it looks like it came from an aftermarket specialty manufacturer. [ Noone from Para ordnance paid me to say this].

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 7:23 PM

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yup

did you give it a good cleaning before shooting it?

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 10:54 PM

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i cleaned, lubed and re cleaned it i think it either needed more rounds or it was just fatly gun. I’ve never herd anything bad about the hawg 9. and it felt good when it shot. Just wanted some other opinions before I ruled them out all together. Thanks for the info.

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5 years 17 weeks ago, 11:45 PM

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Para has a decent rep

for a 1911. Break-in period may be a standard thing for 1911s, but Reliable function out of the box is a standard thing for a Glock.

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 9:50 AM

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i love the 9mm x 21mm parabellum magnum round. the ones made by both IWI and Beretta are very interesting. they seat the bullet deeper into the neck of the cartridge and so these para magnums will fit into any standard weapon that is chambered for the standard 9mm x 19mm parabellum round. I can't think what your problem may have been, but don't give up on the parabellum pistol. with these new para magnum rounds they are much more powerful with much better stopping power and penetration than you might expect. my dad, Ironkoji here at the forum and my older brother who is LittleDragon, are big fans of the 9 x 21 rounds. my dad has a Beretta Cx4 Storm that is specifically chambered for this round and i enjoy shooting this rifle a lot. give the 9mm a second chance and i hope victor chan won't kick me for saying this, but i do think you'll have better luck with a Glock however, recently we've come across a really nice 9mm weapon called the Bul 5 by Bul Manufacturing Ltd. which is a small, private small arms company in Israel and we're looking into using this weapon instead of the Jericho 9mm, which btw is also a really nice 9mm weapon. don't give up on these weapons. they are good, solid pistols if properly cared for and in some cases they do need some breaking in, except as runawaygun said, the glock. if you would like more information about the Bul 5, i'd sure be happy to help.

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 2:10 PM

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thanks for the info i'll havbe to check out the bul 5 sometime

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 10:10 AM

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My 2 cents also.

Jamming or stovepiping can also be contributed to your grip. 2 hands and hold very firm. If your wrist is relaxed some of the energy for ejecting is lost and shell won't eject properly.

5 years 16 weeks ago, 2:12 PM

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i figured that because the gun fired better in my hands than my dads, he has a medical cond. that makes his grip softer. thanks for the info though

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 3:11 PM

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hey smithw45 san! i'm ryo. my little brother asked me if i saw you, to give you the url to the Bul 5 Ultimate Racer. it comes in all marks, but 2 or the 9mm parabellum including the 9mm x 21mm parabellum magnum and the 9mm x 23mm parabellum ultra magnum. the ultra para mag is in fact more powerful than many .44 magnums. don't be misled by the whole 9mm thing about lack of stopping power. these pistols are EXTREMELY powerful weapons and ryo sure you'll be please by their performance. there's a very real possibility that after tonight's meeting of our special design team, we will have selected the Bul Manufacturing Ltd. Bul 5 Ultra Racer over the Jericho 9mm as our off the shelf side arm, even though the Jericho is a proven war winner from IWI, and is the chosen side arm of most of the Israeli Defense Force's Special Forces groups including the Sword of Gideon, the Sword of Daniel, the Mossad and of course the legendary Israeli Air Wing Commandos. the Bul 5 Ultra Racer has a very high capacity magazine and a selection of mags to choose from. most likely we will go with the 9mm x 21mm parabellum magnum. as it is more than powerful enough without having to step up to the ultra magnum 9x23. however, due to the design of the the 9x21 it will fit and fire just fine from any standard 9mm x 19mm parabellum capable of handling +p rounds. the fit is not the problem, all the para mags except for the 9x23 will fit. the problem is the chamber strong enough to handle the extra psi pressure of these powerful rounds.
here is the url:
http://bultransmark.net/BULM5UltimateRacer.htm

ryo and our special design team think you'll be impressed. ryo certainly is impressed!

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5 years 16 weeks ago, 3:15 PM

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hey thanks for the reading info. ill have to check this out.

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