Crusading Knight |
Truck driver's were in a heated discussion about politics when one said," If you are against abortion, how can you vote for a man who has already said that we will go into Iran, and that would mean killing more of our young men and women? What about their future they will never be around to have kids. You wounldn't abort a baby but you would abort our young men and women. It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.- Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
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ebear
i never thought about it that way and i think its a valid point.i think any subject has two sides to it .but i also think you can find good and bad in either candidate and there views on allot of important decisions coming thier way.its gonna take us as americans to back whom ever wins this election and unite tobecome as one strong nation that we once were.
fordvg
What has this guy been smoking? First off, a baby has no way to defend itself. Second, when we send someone into combat they are armed and they are not defenseless. A grow man or woman has the right to join the military. If you have to go to war that is part of decision you made. A unborn baby is not given a chance to chose, someone else is making the chose for them. If you don't want children keep your pants up or your legs close. The born has no one to defend them, if you are stupid.
ebear
i don't smoke.its called a forum. opinions/ you did also make a valid point. would you feel the same if there was a draft?cause that might be an issue, if we have problems elsewhere....Russia---south korea- Iran?
fordvg
Yes, I do still feel the same way! There are a lot of people that go to war and come back. When you are there you can defend yourself. A unborn baby has no one to defend them. If you don't want the child give the little one to someone who does. My wife and I have lost 8 chidren and would love to have a child. Just because they do not want the baby don't kill them.
Crusading Knight
Good points. Remember I'm not asking I'm just relaying something overheard on the CB. Truck driver's love this country and they are always fighting about something or another. Did you know that the government also has programs for truck driver to join because they driver everywhere, and they see alot of things.
Crusading Knight
sorry for your loss.
fordvg
Yes, use to drive myself a long time ago. Father-in-law is a retired trucker. Have a few friends that are still driving.
ebear
i took the original post as .do i feel that the same people who are against abortions.don't have a problem with sending young people to mabey die. you said it was'nt the same, because the young people have a choice. I agree with you. i was asking you if a draft was implamented and the choice was then gone.would it then be the same?thats all...im sorry about what happened to you and your wife, and i hope things change for the better for you. there are allot of parents out there who don't give a shit about there kids.they should'nt have kids. people like you and your wife should.
fordvg
As a disable veteran, who served his country. It makes me sick to hear from the younger kids that they did not ask to be here in the USA. But, they want someone else to do the fighting. If you want all the freedoms this country has to gives them you should be willing to fight for them. If not, you can leave.
DEMO
We have a right to defend ourselves. Whether we need to fight the cold war in Viet Nam or defend ourselves from Fascism or to defend ourselves from terrorist who want to kill us -its self defense.
A baby has no threat. Unless the mothers life is threatened by the pregnacy, the baby has no intention other to be born.
The cell begins dividing and without any intervention it is a human person individual.
The preamble to the constitution allows for life, liberty and the persuit of happiness.
We have a basic right to self preservation. Whether it be a resource depletion war in Iraq- to delplete the enemies ability to attack us or whether it is a basic right to survive and be born. Survival is our right.
We have a responsibility to defend ourself. So both answers are Prolife, defense and anti-abortion.
fordvg
Well, said Demo.
sytasyn_syn
I'd tell him "THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE...SHUT UP!!!"
mr.rogers
I just to throw this in...when i enlisted i took an oath, most of you know what that is. I then volunteered to go to somolia, as did 1/2 my platoon. I'm not saying everyone serving over there volunteered for that duty directly, but they did go over with the skills to be effective, and are doing a fine job at it. In my opinion if you have'nt served then you have'nt the right to voice your cowardice opinion.
ebear
mr rogers, is that last comment directed at anyone in particiler?
sytasyn_syn
I don't see not serving as reason for not having a voice...I think thats just plain arogance in your self. I would never think my 2 tours to Iraq as a Marine and seeing combat both times would put me above anyone. If everyone joined the military, we wouldn't be specialized, nor would we have the two sided community that we need to check each other.
ebear
my point is that you guys are fighting to preserve our rights and freedoms.freedom to have an opinion,and what that dude said was off base. it would IN MY OPINION! be a disservice to you syta or any one else fighting the fight not to exersize these very rights.Syta thank you.Mr rogers if your calling me a coward....I give 2 shits.....