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2 years 25 weeks ago, 5:34 PM

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RCBS 3 die set

Well I just cranked thru 200 rounds of 45/70 brass from the first stage. Then I change the die and casually reach into a drawer to reread the seating instructions.
WHAAAAT, DID I JUST F#CK THIS ALL UP?
NO WAY, I ain' that friggin stupid!
Its not my fault that I've been using a RCBS JR2 for the last decade with 45/70 brass and that I just started using the "Rock Chucker!"
OK so the directions say decap first then change the die for flaring the cartridge, but that ain't the way I did it.
Well I'm pretty stringent with my loading data because I already have that other can of worms about my Marlin 1895xlt handling just as much C.U.P. as a Ruger #1 (which I might post)
So I open up another die box and look at these directions.
AHH HAH! My way!
So now I have 2 sets of directions telling me to load 2 different ways from the same manufacture.
Side by side the booklets paragraphs are different and the pictures show the opposite of the other with the 'sizer' die with and without a decapper and the 'expanding' with and without a decapper.
Well I 'expand' (or flare) then 'resize' (decap) and schwag the pocket. One die does the inside and one does the outside and that is rather confusing on a straight walled cartridge to begin with.
OK so I just dug up the most recent pamphlet on 3 die sets (the one without the staple)and this one says that I decap while sizing.
So with 2 outta 3 that I just did it wrong, Heres a question, Does it really friggin mater?

2 years 25 weeks ago, 5:43 PM

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6 one way

You need to re-size 1st. This normally de-primes in the same step. The next step is to expand or flare the case mouth. If you do this in reverse order the re-sizing die cancels the expanding step. Yep, it matters.

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2 years 24 weeks ago, 10:24 AM

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half dozen back

yes i see it now, but since I'm gonna load 300gr. and 350rn gr. bullets. I ain't gonna bother redoing my 'expanding'.
As for loading Q's, do you know if anybody is offering saboted .458 bullets yet?

As we push for a lead-free technology.......

2 years 23 weeks ago, 9:51 PM

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Decappping

I actually bought a depriming die. I run every case through it before cleaning. One size fits all, and worth the money in my opinion.

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2 years 23 weeks ago, 10:50 PM

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the pocket

ronin1604 wrote:
I actually bought a depriming die. I run every case through it before cleaning. One size fits all, and worth the money in my opinion.

Now as I was looking for the bigger case deburring tool because the 'to .45 cal' tool just irritates the crap outta me,
I find this Lee component that deburrs the primer pocket from the inside......lol
did I just miss something else??
WTF?

2 years 23 weeks ago, 11:57 PM

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We have a lot of respect for handloaders, not to mention anyone with 45/70 Rifles.. Reading that your pushing the old Marlin to the same CUPS as a Ruger #1.. Wasn't aware that the #1 was available in 45/70, is that the case or were you comparing pressure levils.. In any event, Don't think i welcomed you to the site, so consider your self welcomed..

All handloaders are a source of awe for those of us who can't be trusted with sharp pointed things.. Would like to see a pic of the #1 if you have one. Beautiful Rifle.. Are you using optics on either..

Throwing 300 gr + down range when 100 gr is considered a large round is the sorta thing that makes you smile. well done..

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