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6 years 19 weeks ago, 8:18 AM

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"Ammunition Accountability," a newly formed group of ammunition coding supporters, is working to pass legislation to make ammo-coding a reality. Using laser etching, the group wants to place an alpha-numeric serial number on the back of each bullet, round or cartridge manufactured in the U.S. The idea is that it will control criminals by identifying brass or empty shells left at a crime scene and then following up the number on the back to find out who purchased the offending bullet. Gee...it almost makes sense, doesn't it? That's exactly what they want you to think, but don't fall for this newest attack on our heritage.

There must be some airborne disease floating all around that causes some normally sane and rational people to think of more stupid things to do to our society in the name of safety for the masses. This proposed law is basically one of those things.

We are a free people, yet each day we see our freedoms eroded by well-meaning do-gooders intent on sabotaging our basic rights gifted to us under the Constitution. Patriot Benjamin Franklin once wrote that "A society that gives up its rights in the interest of governmental protection and safety guarantees that it will neither be safe, nor free."

In other words, one doesn't give up rights to protect rights, and that's exactly what this proposed law is trying to do -- disarm the American people and do away with the Second Amendment of the Constitution.

Here are a dozen reasons why the proposed legislation will never work:

1. Criminals will never use stamped bullets. There are hundreds of billions of unmarked cartridges floating around that are easily obtainable. Instead, a law like this will only spawn an "unstamped bullet" black market.

2. Laser-etching each bullet is expensive, adding about a half-cent to each round manufactured, i.e. $2.50 addtional for each box of already-expensive .22 rimfire or pistol ammunition. If buying bullets becomes too high for the average person to purchase, then gun control advocates have their population-disarming agenda within reach.

3. No one will be able to purchase unmarked ammo after June 30, assuming the new ammo will be available on July 1.

4. Government will know the exact amount and caliber one purchases after that date, a total invasion of privacy.

5. All privately owned and uncoded ammo will have to be destroyed by July 1, 2011. Once again, this is gun control; no bullets, no guns. See how easy it is?

6. The system will not necessarily prove who pulled the trigger, but will quite possibly target the innocent.

7. The proposed law targets handloaders, too.

8. A licensing fee for each bullet sold will be required.

9. Ammunition retailers will incur administrative costs which will ultimately be passed on to the retail purchaser, thereby increasing the cost for a box of shells even more to the purchaser.

10. There are only a few ammunition manufacturers who can design and build the necessary equipment, meaning that many manufacturers would go out of business. One can then expect another governmental bureaucracy to be created to control the chaos.

11. Habitual criminals do not use registered guns, nor will they use registered ammo.

12. Eighteen states have this legislation currently pending, including California, a state where common sense legislation is an oxymoron.

Now, if you feel that we can all live with this law, go ahead and champion it, but if you feel the same way I do, hurry up and notify your state legislators about the stupid, inane, restrictive and rights-stealing proposal now before them. Do it now, before this thing starts to freight-train with the idiots already in charge of making our lives safer.

Remember, it's not just about our guns, it's about our rights -- the few they have left us.

Opinions expressed in this column are those of Steve Merlo, not The Bakersfield Californian

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 8:19 AM

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lets come up with some more nonsense to hold down the "good guy" while criminals still get free roam. pass me the file

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 10:57 AM

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Washington state tried this awhile back and it flopped big time. They think that everybody out there in the US are all sheeple. They will be sadly mistaken, how easy would it be to pick up a spent cartridge at the range, take it home reload it. Take the newly reloaded round and do something illegal and leave the cartridge for them to blame the guy that first bought the round. This idea is complete crazy they will have no luck getting this idea off the ground.

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 11:01 AM

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If you're shooting and have a bad round and Tap-Rack-Bang or SPORTS, or whatever, would you have to file a police report if you couldn't find it? The very concept is ridiculous. If anybody should be required to use coded ammo it should be the police. Restrictions should only be placed on those people who have authority over the general populace. The people should have none.

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 12:39 PM

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It's not just the stamping of ammo whats in the mill also is the .05 cent tax per bullet, 2.50 per box of with the tax to increase every 16 mos. These half assed ideas are already in the works in 19 states so its time to write , call, tell your friends etc. and there is a long list of other things that will do nothing but hurt the good guys. Reloading is something they want to get rid of, check your local senators, mayors and law enforcement, it's going to be a long battle.......Be safe Stay alert they are coming

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 3:32 PM

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WTF

Posted the same stuff 29 hours ago, LOL

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 5:54 PM

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Well damn thought you could comment about things on this site as many times as you wanted, so I guess I had better check back 30 hours ago to make sure that you have not covered something in your statements of wisdom. Hell I guess this is going no place so I guess you can handle everything, good luck and I will find some place less overbearing.....thats my last nickle

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6 years 19 weeks ago, 8:43 PM

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shadow walker wrote:
Well damn thought you could comment about things on this site as many times as you wanted, so I guess I had better check back 30 hours ago to make sure that you have not covered something in your statements of wisdom. Hell I guess this is going no place so I guess you can handle everything, good luck and I will find some place less overbearing.....thats my last nickle

Did you click on the link??

I'm talking about the subject.

You can comment on whatever the hell you want

6 years 19 weeks ago, 4:49 PM

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and all interested. Ammo at the gun show was decimated, I have never seen pallets loads gone. I got a name of a Company in Grass Valley, CA Wholesale Ammo: www.miwallcorp.com
J&G Supply had some Wolf .223 left 500 rnds like 139.00 and Federal 500 rnds $400 something. They are in Prescott. The ARs, SKs and AK47s were flying out of the place it was truly amazing. Gun prices were high. Best deal I saw was the Double Star .308 like $1195...

6 years 19 weeks ago, 4:54 PM

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My god

Hindsight being 20/20, I would really love to have been smart enough to buy stock in any publicly traded gun and ammo company out there. I suck.

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6 years 18 weeks ago, 11:32 PM

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IN PA THIS IS COMMING UP MORE AND MORE A PGH DETECTIVE TOLD ME FIRST HAND OF WORD COMMING DOWN TO GET READY THAT IT ACTUALLY STANDS A GOOD CHANCE OF PASSING

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6 years 18 weeks ago, 3:43 PM

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what happened to "for the people, by the people"?

6 years 18 weeks ago, 4:08 PM

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Cause you govenment don't truths you, and they want full control of us the people.

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