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3 years 28 weeks ago, 5:51 AM

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I own a Benelli Nova, 3 1/2in chambered. This has some big kick to it and even though I don't use 3 1/2in shells for skeet, it still have heavy recoil. I am not about to shoot 100 rounds from this thing with a stock recoil pad. I believe the recoil pads on these are glued on.
So with all this said I present my issue.
I want soften the pain in my shoulder by the use of a better recoil pad. I have been told that I would have to buy on and get it ground down to fit(too much money to be used on a recoil pad). I also will not get a slip-on style because I have a "purdy" Camo job on it and do not want to cheapen the look of it. I have looked around and have found it difficult to find a reasonable option. I am asking for help for the shotgun hunters and the clay murderers to lay some wisdom on me (not you snake).

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 7:06 AM

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Syn,

I have a pachmyer recoil pad on my Ithaca semi auto. The shot gun was made by SKS under license from Ithaca and imported to the U. S. It is now a discontinued model. However, the recoil pad is an add-on. I think it is screwed and glued on as it is not a slip on. Anyway, I will look and see what I can find. If I get a chance, I will stop by one of the gunshops in the next few days and see what they have to say about it.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 8:13 AM

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Iknow I am late on this, but the answer is simple my friend. I did a lot of clay in the 80's and the best thing to do especially in a match or sunday turkey shoot is to buy the clay pigeon jacket or they even have a webbing for when it is hot that zipped out and has a built in Pad for shoulder. Just make sure you buy the right or left side for you, I would buy the whole jacket w/ zip out liner and that is worn, in hot weather. Even now you can probably get anything you want, because that was in the 80's, and there were three different thicker style pads. They also use them for people to shoot clay off the cruiseships. They also look real professional and have places for shells, etc. I believe Gander Mountain, LL-Bean used to sell by catalog, but go on some of the shotgun sites or gun sites and hit the shooting apparel link. I am sure you will find what you want and thickness in padding and look real pro-like to boot. That's all I know, and rather add a piece of wardrobe than alter Gun in anyway. Happy shooting, I love it, but got a rock for a shoulder now. But when first started had to get the jacket and liner. JLC

3 years 28 weeks ago, 7:00 PM

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Thanks John

BTW, your name makes me think of Det. John Kimble from "Kindergarten Cop"
I think I will just go for the jacket, well actually, i am going to go with the vest style. Thanks for the first hand knowledge.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 5:41 PM

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Hands down. Good call JLC. You get double duty out of a needed item and no modifications to a gun that you may be ready to trade later.
Syn, may I ask what loads you were using that caused discomfort? If they were skeet loads (2 3/4 dram, 1 oz #9,) you may well have the wrong gun for the job. As LBC pointed out when you were shopping, (paraphrasing) "the Silver reserve is a bit heavier than the more expensive O/U shotties but has less percieved recoil). Mine just doesn't bother me with field loads, skeet and trap loads are hardly noticed. My Mossy 500 slide has some "thump" to it when the mag is getting low, even with milder loads.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 9:21 PM

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Shooty loads

I am just using the Winchester x 7 shot i believe, I am not slinging 3 1/2"'s for skeet...I'm not that dumb...i hope! I don't have a problem with the recoil when I shoot pheasant or turkey, just when I am putting 100 rounds down range for skeet.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 6:09 PM

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That was with Arnold S as the teacher right. I love that movie, especially when he says to the kid, ( IT's not a Tumor ) and kicks the guys ass in front of the school that was beating his kid. I take that as a great compliment even though you were only referring to my name. But in the last ten years I have had a lot of people say I have some of his traights. My arms are only 24" bicepts and 52 " chest, cannot imagine what Arnolds are ? But it is all cool, my friend. This computer has got to go. I can only post like a day later, so sorry guys, be patient with me. Tombstone was a great western w/ Kurt Russell, or Kevin Costner. But best film for Vietnam is still in my opinion-- We were just Soldjiers, made by Mel gibson and starred in. JLC

3 years 28 weeks ago, 9:48 AM

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Try this link

http://www.google.com/search?q=recoil+shoulder+pad&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=...

If you're planning on spending some time firing a shotgun, shooting clays or birds, this is a good idea.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 10:08 AM

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I would

ask snake if I were you... He should be able to help you out

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 11:29 AM

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I have an AGI Smithing video covering installing the Limb-Saver pad that you shape yourself.

My brother and I have done it on two shotguns and a could of Deer rifles in the past.. You can do it yourself with some simple hand tools and a sander..

If you want it send me a PM with your email address and I'll locate it and send it to you in an attachment.

Or you can sign up on their web site and check the option that you would like them to send the different free smithing videos.

I have about 30 different ones now.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 12:16 PM

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Even though you don't want a slip on--I put one on my M-4, and that reduced a fairly sharp, uncomfortable [for me, at least] recoil, to one just a little bit more than a .22LR. I did not expect it to work that well, so it was a pleasant surprise.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 3:18 PM

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 7:01 PM

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HAHAHA

I was going to finish off my post6 with the question of...
"Which item would you prefer of should I just stop being a bitch and suck it up?"
HAahaha thanks for the advice Lucky.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 3:35 PM

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limbsaver pad. made to fit $ 37.99 http://www.limbsaver.com/store/product.php?productid=16244 need one on my 1100,just for when i shoot these newfangled high velosity sabot slugs.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 7:05 PM

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The U.K.?

As I look for my padded clay vest I am finding the majority of sites that are selling them are in the U.K....interesting.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 9:46 PM

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a vest is good for recoil absorbtion and carrying shells,combine that with a dump pouch for the empties and your GTG.I use my Pheasant hunting vest and keep my ear plugs and shooting glasses in the pocket.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 11:53 PM

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http://www.huntingclub.com/

I join a few years ago when it started out. Do a free membership and you can get reviewed items and such, join with a paid you get offers to try, review and then keep anything from fire arms, to 4 wheeler bikes, to camp cooking items and such, you name it pretty much. I've had a number of things offered to me but because I do not really hunt anymore I refused so others that do can get the stuff...

Well, until the ask me to test out a Rifle or some such.. hehe

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thx for the hunting club link.i signed up,its only $1 a month!

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 5:40 AM

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jay, np

it si actually not a bad deal over all. LBC and Vaq would do good to join just because they do hunt regular as they can and doing so they will have many chances on doing the review thing. My wifes stepfather had picked up 2 high end compound bows and a shotgun doing it, along with bog boots ( snow boots up north, without the wool liner) and some other things. I read the emails and the Hunters magazine they send to me regular, other than that I just kinda browse around.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 2:14 PM

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Hey man,
check out Fab-defense.com. They are an Israeli company that builds aftermarket stuff for AK, AR, shotguns, etc. They have a product designed to reduce recoil. I got to play with one at SHOT Show. The stock has a recoil spring iinside to soak up some of the recoil. There was a noticable difference when I slammed the butt stock onto the floor compared to the non-spring assisted.

http://www.fab-defense.com/en/category-butt-stocks.html

My Benelli has a collapsible stock, so that is what I am going off of.

hope that helps, I am planning on adding one of these in the future.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 2:57 PM

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the shock absorber is an endine buffer,mesa tactical also has endine make an ar15 carbine stock buffer like this for use on shotguns.

buffer
endine buffer reduces recoil by 70%,made for mesa tactical http://www.mesatactical.com/ it uses any carbine ar15 butstock that fits standard carbine tube.mesa tactical makes adapters to allow rem and moss shotguns to use ar15 grips and stocks.

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Mesa Tactical, a Costa Mesa, Ca, manufacturer of AR style stock and pistol grip mounting adapters, and Picatinny rails, for Remington, Mossberg, and Winchester tactical shotguns, is introducing an innovative professional grade of all-metal shotgun shell holders with storage capacity for either four, six, or eight 12 gauge shells. Designed specifically for use with Mesa Tactical’s exclusive single-point mounting system, these new on-the-gun shell holders attach directly to the company’s AR stock adapters rather than the shotgun receiver. Machined from 6061-T6 hard anodized aircraft aluminum, they also incorporate an entirely new internal elastomer shell retention system that eliminates the need for the flexible plastic shell retainers used on conventional shell holders.

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This gentleman's personal shotgun (among the many he owns for his business), a Remington 870 Police model from Vang Comp, with the full Vang Comp treatment: LPA sights, ported barrel with internal tactical choke, Vang Comp magazine extension and oversized safety. Plus LEO stock, SureShell shell carriers left and right, magazine clamp with rail from Mesa Tactical. And a SureFire weapon light (that's just for show; I rarely have the clamp and light on there; actually, so is the right-side shell carrier).

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 9:21 PM

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I should mention that this is a hunting and skeet gun, i would like it to keep its hunting gun look. So some of these items are out but I do appreciate the bits of knowledge slung around here. Its always good to learn about new products.
Look at the pic I attached to the thread.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 10:37 PM

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i kinda figured youd be wanting to keep the original look.id just use a limbsaver,it will make a big differance and only change the butplate.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 9:38 PM

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ISporting Clays...

I've wanted to show up down south on the Clay range with a Saiga and a 20 round drum for a while now. Felix thinks that Ray will throw me off his range and tell me to go back the Area 51 with the Mil-Tards...

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the first season

i shot trap i used my trusty 870,18 inch barrel,the gun was so short it would not stand in the rack out front of the range,i shot fast cause i couldn't let the clays get out to far,i shot okay though and really enjoy it still,but now i use my Mossy OU for trap and Pheasants.

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Syn,

After looking at the pic of your Benelli, I think I would go with Jay's idea. If I am right the limbsaver is basically a recoil pad you wear on you rather than on the weapon. I have heard that they are pretty good for pumps and O/U's, especially if they already have a recoil pad attached to the butt. You might see if there is one made for O/U's chambered for 3 1/2 and see if it is a little thicker than the standard models. I don't know if they have them out yet or not. I have never shot any 3 1/2 rounds in a 12 or 20 ga. shotty so I'm not sure how much they kick. Then again I may be all wet behind the ears and not have a clue as to how to help you. At least I am trying to offer sound advice.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 12:29 AM

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limbsaver

its a super soft rubber butpad.some are grind to fit,wich is allot easier and nicer looking than it sounds,and some are direct replacements.not a bad investment for only 40$ my buddy put one on his 300 win mag,and it tamed it right down.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 5:42 AM

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haven't watched that in years....

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me either,its on my list to buy when i see it for sale cheap.im a huge movie collector.gotta buyem on sale or id never get most of the movies i want if i pay 20$ each every time id have about a $14 thousand dollar movie collection by now.

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 5:56 AM

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They used to have a table of different movies for $5.00... They closed down all of the locations here in Pinellas, dunno if it is just our area, state wide or nation wide...

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have a great day !

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movie suggestions?

bye.im up all nite again too.YAY!!! aint it fun being the only one awake?not.here i sit drinking my wifes bitch beers tryin to catch a buzz and get tired.i buy movies from video rental places walmart($5bin) best buy has good deals sometimes.anyone out there got any good suggestions for westerns and war movies?got about 700 dvds and only about 25 of those are considered westerns.really like eastwood.the duke is ok,liked true grit.the new one was awesome!jeff bridges is the man.only have 6 true war movies.open to suggestions gunslot........

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3 years 28 weeks ago, 11:07 PM

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3:10 to yuma,Steve Mcqueen in Nevada Smith,the Wild Bunch,any Eastwood western,any John Wayne movie,Silverado,Quigly down under.Start with those,and i have NETFLIX,beats buying movies for 8.99 a month,thats damn near all we watch when we do watch TV,which isn't that often really.

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are Bruce Willis in Tears of the Sun, If you haven't seen it you should catch Mel Gibson's Apocalypto(strange edge of your seat kind of movie)(and of course Patriot is fantastic). My Old Movie I like is Sea Wolves for some classic kind of tactical flick. I just watched Escape from Sobibor and it REALLY got my heart racing as it went along for such an old movie also. A good futuristic, but not so much war movie that is worth watching was James Spader(Boston Legal) in Supernova,, it is mind tingling. But my all time favorite warlike movie(that I have in a limited bunch of yard sale DVD's) is a comedy with lots of continuous funny lines and antics is Kelsey Grammer's Down Periscope. I re-watch this one a lot actually. Hope these might be some good suggestions if you are looking for something to watch on TV besides chic flicks Jay.

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thx bigshot.tears of the sun is good.dont have it or sea wolves or escape from sobibor.the patriot is historicaly correct,and fun i watch it allot,and watch apocalypto often too.

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Give this a look http://www.gunslot.com/forum/10-greatest-war-movies

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SamD posted a pic of a ported shotgun barrel. This is something I had not thought of but I think it makes sense. If you have a gunsmith available, you might look into having him port your barrel. If he can do it to the existing barrel, then the gun would retain it's current configuration, but should have less perceived recoil. If he can't do it to your existing barrel, then you might check and see if ported barrels are available that will match your cammo pattern. If that is not an option, then I will find out the name of a business here that puts a cammo pattern on guns that are not already done. You could buy a couple of ported barrels that fit your gun, see if he can match your cammo pattern and if he can send them to him and let him do the cammo work. check out the pics that SamD posted and see what you think about the idea.

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Ported huh? Eureka!

An excellent Idea! Didn't think about that. It is something I will have to look into After My wife and I get our house and money is back to normal. Thanks

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if he is using it in competitive Skeet, I doubt that porting would be allowed.

It isn't about perceived recoil but rather faster follow up shots because of reduced muzzle flip.

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I see,

well, I have never shot skeet competetively so I was not aware of that. It was at least a thought. Perhaps not as good as I first thought.

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for the hunting and defense side of it, it is a damn good thought. My brothers FN SLP is ported and also Mossberg Turkey Gun is ported with Hi-Viz Fiber Sights.

But I think Skeey would restrict it because of enhancing follow up shots.

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blahhhhh

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ISD,

no offense taken. I honestly did not know that skeet might restrict the ported barrels. I thank you for enlightening me. I have an old Ithaca semi-auto. It was made by SKS in China under license from Ithaca and imported by them for sale in the United States. It has an old Poly-choke, the sort that twists to adjust the choke of the barrel. I will try to post a pic of it one day, but my question is that the Poly-choke has slits much like you would expect a muzzle brake to have. I wonder if it would be restricted also? I have pretty quick follow up shots anyway because the barrel of my shotty retracts partially into the receiver and absorbs some of the recoil. There is also a Pachmyr recoil pad on it and with all of that, there is little more felt recoil than that of a .223 rifle. I'm not saying there isn't more, just not much more.

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