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3 years 48 weeks ago, 3:04 PM

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Recoil spring question

I currently own Gock 22(gen 4) & 19.. While checking on recoil springs I notice they are offered in several different tensions from 12 - 24 lbs.. The factory standards are 17 & 18 lbs respectively.
Why would I want a reduced power spring or an enhanced power spring ?
Also, if you change the recoil spring, do you have to change any other springs as well..
I currently like the way both pistols perform and feel.. Just curious as to the differences..

3 years 48 weeks ago, 3:40 PM

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Lighter springs are used in competitive shooting as part of a weapon setup for faster shooting. They load rounds to the least amount of powder which still allows the slide to function. With a factory spring and an extremely light load the slide would not function correctly causing issues such as FTF and FTE...

Light loads means less recoil mean less flip means faster follow up shots with the weapon staying on target...

It also allows a person to turn their weapon to the type of ammo they use, really Hot = Stronger and Lighter = Weaker springs.

I have seen some .45 Autos for Open Class competitive shooting which do not move when shot because of the guns setup... Including light springs and loads (which are actually moving fast enough to still make Major) that also have Compensator's with Ported Barrels. It is like shooting a 22....

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 3:52 PM

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factory loads

so does that equate to a heavier spring using standard factory loads from most manufacturers = less recoil ?
I guess I could see a competition shooter having a need to tweak his weapon, but for general carry & home defence there shouldnt be much concern.. Thanks for the response..

3 years 48 weeks ago, 3:54 PM

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unless you have a specific need for it..........Like the things Ishootdaily mentioned. Just a headache unless you are loading your rounds Hot, or light!

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:52 PM

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As stated before , I don't really see a need for changing the springs.. More just a need to know about why so many options. Some Glock sites offer so many different options and "upgrades", it starts to get confusing... One site offers "Glock essentials upgrade" $114.00" on a stock pistol.. Whats wrong with the stock Glock?..nothing that I can see.. It's good enough for me, and I guess that's what counts.

3 years 48 weeks ago, 9:58 PM

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recoil springs

Does anyone know if a heavier spring would cycle ammo in a 10/22 better

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 10:50 PM

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John... leave it be

The rifle is setup from the factory to fire all general loads of 22 on the market. You go changing things and you will run into problems with cycling really fast...

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 10:54 PM

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Yea your right its probably just my mags anyway

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 12:16 AM

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seem to be the best for the 10/22 from what I've been told.

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3 years 48 weeks ago, 6:44 AM

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Leave the Glock alone

Except the sights. They're garbage. Get rid of them and go with a good set of night sights. I have some "competition cut" Heinie Slant Pro Straight Eights on my G34 and you want to talk about fast. holy crap, are they nice. Unfortunately, the company I bought them from that does the cutting was really bad as far as customer service and ease of contact, so I won't even say the name lest someone else gives them money. Check out Dawson Precision for some great sight sets. Warren brand sights are probably good too, as that is the brand Dave Sevigny uses on his otherwise stock G34 and he has endless choices.

I miss my Glock.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 10:24 AM

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I miss my Glock.

lol, your a cheating dog, stroking that damn beretta all this time thinking about your baby...

dog I say!

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 10:00 AM

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recoil springs

leave the 19 and 22 factory springs alone for self defense. The only glock spring I've ever changed is on my G20. I added a 22lb wolff spring and steel guide rod. The 22lb spring helps out with the recoil on some of the hot 10mm loads, and still cycles good with the regular factory stuff.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 11:03 AM

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I'm doing detainee ops, basically a prison guard. No gun for me.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 11:19 AM

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Now that *would* suck

Now that has to be a bitch. Higher probably has their nose up ya'lls ass on a regular basis too, huh?

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 11:37 AM

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You have no idea

Holy shit is this place ridiculous

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 11:55 AM

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I feel for ya

just be safe...

They should setup some matches... Therapy of the BANG flavor, hell, it would give everyone one something to look forward to, keep the skills sharper than not shooting at all, great for moral too.

Not like anyone in the populace would be surprised by gun shots or anything...
I mean just as long as they knew it was inanimate targets being shot. LOL

I'm gonna stop, I just had a vision of a sick ass IDPA match...

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 47 weeks ago, 12:31 PM

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They have ranges here.

I did a qual range when I first got here, and every once in a while you hear the marines shooting their .50s or 240s, but nothing for those of us who just want to shoot. The army takes all the fun out of it anyway. "Clear on the left? Clear in the center? Clear on the right? Right is not clear. Stand by". (Ten minutes wasted while some fucktard tries to figure out which end of the gun the bullet comes out of). No shooting on the move, no transition from longarm to sidearm, People who can barely tell the ejection port from their assholes having to clear my weapon because they have one more rocker on their rank than me. Soldiers have stood in awe at my civilian range where each person is responsible for clearing themself and people actually walk around with *gasp* loaded weapons away from the firing line.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 12:49 PM

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LOL

scary shit...

Mind boggling too, if it was my command I would be doing it a bit differently or getting canned for trying. I guess that is one area the military really needs to have some revaluation . Is it better to have Gun Fighters that know how to be civil and thoughtful or best to have Civil Thoughtful people who attempt to be gunfighters?

Yeah, never could wrap my mind around Respect to Rank, bowing to lesser skilled just because of it and or being expected to kiss someones ass who hasn't a clue on that basis. Well kissing ass at all really..

That is why I held the LOR record in my unit when I was in... I've called more butter bars "Dumbass..... SIR" than I should have I guess.

Gunfighter's walking around with loaded weapons in a War Zone, imagine that?

Boggling....

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 12:38 PM

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must be an army thing

Marines take their marksmanship seriously,even when i was in we had "quick kill" courses set up where a single man would walk thru a jungle/forest trail shooting at popups with live ammo,looking for boobytraps that would trip smoke high and low,counter-ambush drills with live fire and more but that was all Vietnam related shit now that i look at it.We did have shoot houses when i was playing at Coronado but we got in a truck and drove somewhere so i don't know where the fuck that was really,could of been Mexico,never did figure out why that donkey was on the stage with it's legs tied up to a 2x4.

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 3:07 PM

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some high speed shit like kill houses, MOUT assault courses, and live-fire ranges where we do squad attack, enter and clear trenches, and other fun shit, but I was talking about the static ranges. So controlled and formal.

As for the donkey, that was probably ebear before he discovered hair clippers

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3 years 47 weeks ago, 3:14 PM

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I mean riding into town of course... LOL

No sir, he fell into that bullet... Never argue with a stupid person. They'll just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!!
3 years 47 weeks ago, 3:20 PM

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of one of those toy rides they have in front of Wal-mart. Stick a peso in its ass and it'll rock back and forth while the little ones ride it

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