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5 years 37 weeks ago, 4:32 PM

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Reloading

I know some people have been talking about reloading and I know it saves money and I would like to take up that hobby as well. The more you know...right? I would want to reload 5.56mm NATO and .40S&W to start.
What would I need and ABOUT how much would each thing cost. I appreciate your help!

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 11:00 PM

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First, you will need a reloading press you can start with a single stage like a RCBS for around $120.00 you can find use one cheaper sometime. If you want to load a lot of ammo fast and very accurate you can go with a Dillion RL 550B that accommodates over 160 calibers. Dillion RL 550B is $350.00.
Second, will need reloading dies for the 40 S&W and 5.56(.223) dies and they run around $25 to $40 depends on brand you buy. The 5.56 if you are shooting out of an AR only buy a full length sizing die.
Third, you will need case lube for the rifle brass. When you buy the die for pistol calibers buy carbide dies only. You do not have to lube the pistol cases when you are using carbide die. The carbide rifle dies you still have to use case lube.
Fourth, you need some powder scales and I have used both balance beams scale and electronic scale and I like the electronic scale are more accurate and faster. Electronic from Dillion $140.00, balance beams around $70 but they are slow to use.
If you go with a single stage you will need shell holders for the 5.56 and 40 S&W. Dillion 550 uses Caliber Conversion Kit and when you buy a press from them or someone else they have a No B.S. Warranty that goes with the machine. Caliber Conversion Kit will some time over lap with other calibers. There is a booket that will tell you what overlaps what.
Lee has a hand priming tool that I love and you can buy it with all the shell holders for about $40.00 If you want your brass nice and clear you can buy a brass trumbler or it is called a vibratory case cleaner. This will make your dies last longer with clean cases. Trumbler $70 to $170.00 depends on how much brass you want to clean. I think I got everything.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 11:53 PM

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hand tools

primer hole deburring tool,case mouth chamfer tool,case length trimmer(i prefer Lee)i like all these steps to be by hand so as to create more inspection of the brass,the more you handle it the better the chance of finding a bad case.remember,when you pull the trigger you are causing an explosion!do you want a safe one or one that could hurt or kill you?

5 years 37 weeks ago, 12:38 AM

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Good news to me

I'm happy to see someone asked this,Might come in handy in 2009. Thanks guys. Any preferance as to powders? and are some brasses easier than others?

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:51 AM

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Wow, there is a shit load more to this then I thought there was. I hope to be able to get into this. Just a little bit of money I guess.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:59 AM

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yeah it can add up

thats why i buy factory ammo. i can always buy it discounted and can get it in bulk (for really cheap). It would take a lot of ammo to just make up the money it costs to buy the press, scales, die, brass etc... unless I do it for the reason of making my own match grade rounds (I currently have a buddy who loads mine)... it doesn't really make too much sense for me, although i may change my mind someday when ammo becomes more expensive, harder to find, and i have more time on my hands

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:28 PM

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You will need some reloading manuels, or just go online and look it up. All of my .308,.300 Win. Mag. and 45acp and 9mm is match grade. When I was shooting matches 2 to 3 time a month I was shooting 30,000 rounds a year. If I had to buy it all factory I would never been able to shoot that much. .308 matches ammo was going for $1.25 a round and I was loading the same match ammo for $0.46 a round. That was bullets,primer, and powder with my brass.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:30 PM

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Other match ammo

5.56/.223,.220 Swift, 22-250, is all match grade.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:44 PM

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that makes sense. most of the calibers I own are common ehough that I can find cheap factory ammo or surpplus ammo, but I do have a .220 swift, and I can't find any cheap ammo for it. it would make sense to look into reloading for .220 swift (I like the round by the way, very fast)

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:59 PM

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Reloading for others

I have a couple of guys here that I load for. Getting ready to load up some 22-250 with a 69 gr. Seirra BTHP for a guy to see how it shoots in his rifle. The lighter bullets are mot working. That .408 CheyTac I'm wanting to buy cost $5.75 a round and I will be able to load them for around $2.30 a round, and maybe cheaper.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 11:05 PM

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I do like the 220 Swift and that 204 Ruger is a very fast little round too.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 12:19 AM

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every play with the 6.5x55 swede?just curious where you chime in on this one.

5 years 36 weeks ago, 3:08 AM

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No, I have never played with 6.5x55 Swede. Heard good thing about that round. You ever get to shoot the friend from the gun clubs 50 BMG yet?

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5 years 22 weeks ago, 12:40 AM

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dies for 7.62x54R?

5 years 22 weeks ago, 3:32 AM

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Reloading costs

The initial cost may be a bit daunting, but when you consider the cost of cheap 9mm ammo is 20 bucks for 100 rounds, at 1000 rounds, you're looking at 200 dollars, and for the same when reloading you're looking at 275 dollars for the Lee single stage press kit, one set of dies, 1000 bullets, 1000 primers, and 1 pound of powder which will get you about 1000 rounds, give or take a few. that's more, but 1000 rounds really isn't that many. After you've got the setup, all you need to buy is bullets, powder, and primer after that. It pays for itself pretty quickly. And that's 9mm, which is pretty cheap compared to most other rounds. If you shoot 40 or 45 and don't reload, you're wasting money.

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5 years 22 weeks ago, 3:42 AM

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Yes, midwayusa has the Lee Pacesetter dies on sale for 20 dollars a set. Rcbs is between 27 and 53 dollars.

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