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Rosie O'Donnell Compared Radical Christians to Radical Muslims-Truth!

Summary of the eRumor:
Rosie O'Donnell, who is part of the cast of ABC's daytime show titled The View, allegedly compared radical Christians and radical Muslims. The email says she was talking about Bible-believing Christians.

The Truth:
This exchange did take place during a program of The View that was telecast on September 12, 2006, the day after the fifth anniversary of the Attack on America.
According to a transcript of the show obtained by TruthOrFiction.com, O'Donnell brought up the subject of a national speech made by President George W. Bush on September 11. In it, the President said that the safety of America depends on the outcome of the battle on the streets of Baghdad. O'Donnell said she felt the the outcome "...depends on the battle in the streets of New Orleans," referring to reconstruction and relief efforts after the gulf hurricanes in 2005.

Another of the hosts on The View, Elisabeth Hasselbeck, spoke on behalf of the President and his actions in Afghanistan and Iraq saying, "I mean, it's been five years, we have not been attacked," Hasselbeck said. "We're also in a- We're on the on the offense here. We have to be, because we were attacked five years ago."

O'Donnell said, "We were attacked, not by a nation, and as a result of the attack and the killing of nearly 3,000 innocent people, we invaded two countries and killed innocent people in their countries."

Hasselbeck replied, "But do you understand that that the belief funding those attacks, okay, that is wide spread? And if you take radical Islam and you want to talk about what's going on there, you have to..."

O'Donnell interrupted with, "And just one second. Radical Christianity is just as threatening as radical Islam in a country like America where we have a separation of church and state. We're a democracy here."

"Hang on," Hasselbeck replied. "We are not bombing ourselves here in the country. We are being attacked."

"No," said O'Donnell. "But we are bombing innocent people in other countries. True or false?"

Another co-host Joy Behar, added, "But, but Christians are not threatening to kill us. There's that difference, This group is threatening to kill us."

5 years 42 weeks ago, 10:52 PM

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I hate to say it,

Radical religion of any sort is dangerous. How many people were killed in the Serbia and Kosovo by Christians and Muslims both. Of course there were the Crusades, and how many murders have taken place throughout the world by different religions in history? O'Donnell is a stupid, fat cow fucktard who should be strapped to a relief supply pallet and delivered to the poor, starving insurgents. However, let's not be too blind. We are right for doing what we're doing as long as we keep religion out of it.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 10:54 PM

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runaway, I agree

all radicals are nuts. Middle ground and common sense needs to prevail in this country! But the Left is more wrong than us...LOL

5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:01 PM

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The far right is more right than the far left. At the far right is no government, just members of a community working as a collective. At the far left is no government, just members of a community working as a - Hey, wait a minute, it's a circle! We all want the same thing!! We just want to get there in different directions. They are going the WRONG DIRECTION!!!

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:06 PM

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Democracy?!?!?!!?

I'm so sick of the leftists calling our nation a Democracy! In the pledge of allegiance do we say ...and to the Democracy for wich it stands...? No, we say "Republic". We vote all our representitives in, not just some of them. I'm suprised the got rid of Ms. Odonnell. You would be hard pressed to find a "radical" christian blowing themselves up and taking as many as they can with them. In Cristianity, murder and suicide are both sins. Those things go against the Bible. She is a hate mongering idiot who needs to stop adopting children from other countries and quit spreading to them her sickness.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:12 PM

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A Republic is

re⋅pub⋅lic   /rɪˈpʌblɪk/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [ri-puhb-lik] Show IPA Pronunciation

–noun 1. a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them.
2. any body of persons viewed as a commonwealth.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:18 PM

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Not siding with the muslims, but what is the difference between blowing yourself up to kill five enemies and killing five enemies with a rifle? You are still taking lives for your religion. You are still perverting the basic nature of your religion. If you look at the old testament, christians did some horrific things with God's direct assistance.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:29 PM

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Nobodies perfect.

Yeah, cristians have gone on the war path. I'm just trying to point out what I know about the difference in philosophies. I haven't read the coran, so I'm not sure what it says exactly. I just know that if your a Cristian and you commit murder or suicide, that is considered a sin. I guess murder is subject to definition by the influence of the beliefs of your respective society. If you always turned the other cheek eventually you and what you believe in would eventually be wiped of the earth. I'm not really well versed enough to put up a good arguement and although I believe in God I guess if it came down to it I would have to do some soul searching. I'm reminded of the scene in Sgt. York where he has that conflict of consience about going to war and killing another man. I think it would be similiar to that.

I'm not defending the actions of zealots here, I'm just saying there is a definite difference in how you treat your fellow man between the two religions. I believe mine is the right one and theirs is not, but I'm not going to kill them over it.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 11:33 PM

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One more thing,

If you blow yourself up and only kill five then you committed six sins. Why not only commit five sins to start and live to be forgiven or go and get the rest of them later?

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:01 AM

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I have to say the leadership of the Christians at times has been so corrupt that wars have been waged over the centuries. The European Kings throughout the ages sent people to die in the name of God when the Kings, Popes and dictators wanted some gain from the wars.
Took many religious classes in University.
The point is that the Christian religion was not the evil problem creating a war. True Christians do not wage unjust wars. The leadership perpetuates the war in the name of God.
Now Islam is purely a religion that does. The koran specifically states to kill the non-believer. The Bible tells us to love our enemy and turn the other cheek. Correct me if I am wrong...do not feel like researching this shit all night.
Now I will get racial. How many christian bombings have their been. How what percentage of white christians or Jews are in prison for violent crimes. Much lower than other religious racial groups. Not trying to offend anyone but christians seem to live without consistant violence- most of us are gun owners. The christian work ethic, morality is consistant with naturalistic law. Society functions better with the values of christianity. remove the religious/cermonial part keep the morality and values and the values are better for a society. Thats why the middle east still is in the dark ages and we have evolved to a superior technology and society....

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 12:48 AM

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The koran does say that if an enemy of islam invades your country, you are to fight to the death against the invaders. The instructions on how to treat other people are almost identical to christianity. Remember, islam sees Christ as a prophet. they do not identify him as the son of god, but as a very important prophet, second only to Mohammed. I see all of your religions as nothing more than another method for people to tak and exert power over others. Organized religions are invented by men and can be corrupted like anything else.

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5 years 42 weeks ago, 1:07 AM

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This is in response to Demo's comment. Anybody remember the IRA. The Irish Republic Army? Hmm? The war between protestants and catholics? The war between the Irish and the British? The IRA was known for setting up bombs that would kill many innocents. I pick no side in that fight. It's just you said you will get racial. White people are just as prone to bomb white people as brown people to shoot brown people. Hell it's just like how african americans say that they spend too much time killing each other. Race has nothing to do with killing. Anyone can do it. Neither does religion. An aethist can kill. Now while, yes at the moment, it would appear that religion is a factor, and even race; but don't forget that white guy that joined the Taliban. http://tif.everythingsoul.com/?p=87 That's a guy from California. Now I'm not saying that Islam or Christianity is bad. I'm a believer in God myself. I was raised Catholic and like anyone raised Catholic, I have guilt about bad things I've done. But the point I make is getting racial or saying radical religion is bad is not the point. People who think they have the answer and are unwilling to take suggestions to the opposite can be a real problem. It's like the movie Dogma. Yes I know it's a comedy and I enjoy it as a comedy. But Chris Rock's character makes a good point. I'll do my best to quote him. "A lot of people have gone to war for a belief. A lot of people have died for a belief. But an idea can change and grow." I think everyone here has beliefs on one thing or many things. I'm not here to attack anyone's beliefs but I will say this. Are we willing to die for a belief? Are we willing to fight for a belief? I know one belief that a lot of people have that the answer to both questions is yes. Freedom. My main feeling about discussions like this is always the same. Every country needs a military. No country should want to use a military. And lastly, I just want my friends to come home safe.

5 years 42 weeks ago, 8:13 AM

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That Fat Dike is going to burn in hell, and she's pissy about it. Come on Rosie, nobody likes you anymore. God and Allah arent too keen on the rug on rug munching that you have done, so quit yer bitching.

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