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5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:14 PM

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There is an AR15 Parts kit, minus stripped lower on Gunbrokers.com it is auction # 129569488
I can use the buy it now for $720.00. I have found the lower that I want it is a Spike Tactical/with Infidel lasered on to it. Lower $145
I asked the seller the question about the parts used and his answer is below.
Can someone w/knowledge look at this and let me know what you think.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=129569488

Complete parts kit less lower!!! ALL PARTS ARE MADE FROM CURRENT MILITARY/LE CONTRACTORS! (MIL-SPEC) CERRO FORGING (KEYHOLE MARKING ON UPPER RECEIVER) AND HAS A WILSON BARREL CHROMOLY 1/9 TWIST!!! I USE A COLT 6920 TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT THESE PARTS KIT ARE THE SAME THING OTHER THAN THE WILSON BARREL!!!!!!! NO JUNK HERE. THANKS

5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:39 PM

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Cerro forging is just one company that makes uppers for the AR15s I'm not familiar with their quality, as for the Wilson barrel, it is a very good one and the 1 in 9 twist is about the best all around twist rate for the .223 if you want to use a variety of bullet weights. Seems like a decent deal if you insist on building your own. For others viewing this, here is a list of forge markings to help decide whether to buy a paticular weapon based on past experience with these companies' product quality.

A (splintered) = Anchor Harvey Aluminum
AF = Alcoa Forge
C AF = Colt Alco Forge
C MB = Colt / Mueller Brass
Cardinal (stylized) = Cardinal Forge
CH = Colt Harvey Aluminum
Circle/Crosshairs w/"AR" = ArmaLite
CK = Colt / Kaiser Aluminum
CM = Colt / Martin Marietta
D (stylized) = Diemaco
DK = Diemaco / Kaiser Aluminum
E = Emco
EK = EMCO/Kaiser
E MB = EMCO/Mueller Brass
F keyhole = FNMI / Cerro Forge
FA = FNMI / Anchor Harvey
FK = FNMI / Kaiser Aluminum
FM = FN/Martin Marietta
FMB = FNMI / Mueller Brass
Keyhole = Cerro Forge
L = Lewis Machine & Tool
LK = LAR / Kaiser Aluminum
LM = LAR / Martin Marietta
M (under diamond) = Mueller Industries
PA = Capco / Anchor Harvey
PM = Capco / Martin Marietta

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 12:49 PM

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What do you reccomend? Ideas, suggestions.

Thank you for the help.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 1:25 PM

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dear samD,

the chromoly is outstanding. this is exotic alloy of chromium/molybdenum and so it very very hard and strong and most important is smooth. specs are very good for price and material make from is most very high quality enhance stainless steel for the wilson barrel. also agree with everything runawaygun say.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 2:46 PM

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LittleDragon, Hey buddy, how's it going? On the subject of Chromium/moly, I have a Bushmaster DCM XR set up for high power competition and it has this barrell. It is very accurate, however I didn't enjoy the barrell break in procedure. Like every 20 rounds I had to clean the thing. Do you know or does anybody know if it requires extra lub/cleaning if just sitting in the safe a couple of months. I know Chrome lined barrels are more resistant to wear/rust. Also, thanks to runaway for the barrel proof markings, that's good info. And another question, does anybody know about S&W M&P AR's. My gun dealer has a tactical model that looks and feels very nice with the tactical rails and flip up sights.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 7:47 PM

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Yes it should be extra lubed if it going to be store because it somewhat electrostatic material and so collect dust. It not problem of rust or wear. Problem is it dust magnet. Extra lube will help some, but it very fine material and need to be clean frequently. Hope this helps some.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 8:03 PM

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Thanks Little Dragon, I'll be sure to coat her with lube every now and then.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 2:49 PM

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samD my suggestion

is to buy a complete rifle then get it engraved, but that is ONLY because I'm not current on prices of parts kits, so I don't know whether that stuff is expensive. I know Diamondback Tactical on Kolb Rd in Tucson has/had a special going on M4s with rails and one or two hundred rounds of ammo for 9oo-sumpin bucks, but I don't know the specifics.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 2:53 PM

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One of my wife's soldiers has an M&P15T and he loves it. I'm a bit more critical of the M4 series as they really only have minor differences bewteen guns, and my take on it when I played around with it was that for such a relatively expensive gun, the trigger should have been better. It felt like a standard trigger, so it's good enough for government work, but it's a bit more rough than I would expect. The only M4s I've found with triggers that truly amazed me are the Rock River guns. As for the M&P15T, it feels and shoots about the same as my Bushmaster and the accuracy wasn't any better. Flip up sights are cool and all I guess, but I prefer a fixed front sight post and flip up rear. Too expensive for what you get in my opinion.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 2:58 PM

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Thanks Runaway, I'll keep that in mind. I keep hearing about RR's triggers, it seems like eveybody loves them. The S&W is a bit on the high side in price.

5 years 31 weeks ago, 3:34 PM

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I still do it the old fashioned way. 1 round, 1 swab up to 12 rounds. Then I go 2 rounds and swab, etc. Then I get tired, go shoot a handgun for a while then come back to the rifle range for more. Is there a better way, probably, but I haven't tried it. I will say that the Rem mod. 788 in .308 I gave my son a few years ago was broken in that way and it still shoots MOA - w/standard velocity Hornadys. That was not a very expensive rifle, but I did take the time to break it in. Today I see people at the range w/ 1K + rifles and they don't even think about breaking the barrel in. Aahh well.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 3:37 PM

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Charley, yea, this was the first rifle I broke in that way. I think they recommended you swab it every 5 rounds the first 40 rounds or so, and then to clean it every 20 rounds until you got to 200. At least that's what the paper in the box said. I guess I"m lazy. I love to clean guns, sometimes I enjoy it as much as actually shooting, but when I'm a the range with ammo at my side, I just want to shoot!

5 years 31 weeks ago, 3:41 PM

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 5:08 PM

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There good kits ordering one soon my self.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 7:31 PM

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Lots to investigate...

5 years 31 weeks ago, 5:29 PM

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Barrel break-in

I've been thinking about getting a fire lapping kit for my wife's Rem 700 varmint gun, but i don't know. I know fire lapping is good for bores that have been neglected with minor pitting, but I don't know if it's good for new barrels. i've posed the question on a couple benchrest shooter's forums, but no solid answer yet.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:50 AM

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I would do it.... it won't cause any harm. I've been thinking about lapping some of my rifles also.

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 9:53 AM

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runaway: lapping

here is a .pdf I found that has instructions for lapping new bores

http://www.twincityrodandgun.com/PDF%20files/Rifle%20Bore%20Lapping.pdf

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5 years 31 weeks ago, 6:43 AM

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Excellent find, Reaper

The fire lapping kit is what I was planning on using for my wife's Rem 700 varmint gun.

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