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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:21 AM

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SamD

I stepped in a pile of dung by confronting this SamD guy, and I want everyone to know why, and consider what they want out of this site. This is a post in response to "clintbo" -

I don't want to visit Senor Sam's cat box every day, and can't stand the smell. Do YOU?

Clint -

He talked about his "hydro-shock" bullets (not a "warning shot" round by any definition) "new Glock", laser aiming system and three full clips for his plastic gun - then he said that "it won't be happening anymore" - referring to any "trespass" against him if it even exists - with the obviously worded inflection that he planned on confronting unarmed people with a loaded weapon as his "final solution". This guy who invokes hilter at every turn brags about having a CCW, and I have been told by many people on this site who have been here for awhile that the guy is truly psychotic. I was stupid enough to react to his little hate fest. Replace illegal alien with teen age kid sneaking home though his yard and then think about this guy all "ready to deal justice" and the consequences for the kid, and then for gun owners. How do you feel now? Find his post, unless he took it down - and ask yourself if the man is stable. He's 65 and acting like he's 25. I just can't stand people like this guy who watch to many westerns and apply that "model" to their lives. I said - IF I EVER SAW HIM TRANSGRESS I would defend those PEOPLE who he is HUNTING. The man is sick, and armed. Someone of authority needs to intervene - but that is just my opinion after the things I have collectively seen him type out and the information shared by others privately on this site.

I wanted to talk to people who I respect on this site about preserving the 2nd Amendment and get some ideas so that I might try and be active here locally in Ca. - ground zero for screwed up gun laws and the harbinger of things to come if sensible folks are not able to deliver good arguments to those who's minds are almost totally made up AGAINST guns. We have to reach out, and this site has some great thinkers on it. It also has some real mental neanderthals that piss me off and do all of you no favors with their actions. It's a bummer, but it is what it is. Free speech applies to everyone. The freedom to live does too. Culture of life? I'd like to see that in some consistent fashion. Killing Illegal aliens doesn't honor that. I only said I would defend those who were fleeing - running away - if I ever saw that guy trying to shoot them in the back. If Sam feels threatened then he only confirms his intention to shoot illegal aliens. There you are. I really think he'd take a shot if he could, and that is what this whole deal is about.

I think I'll let Sam have his personal sandbox to shit all over without anymore of my input - I don't need to log on only to read shit that horrifies me or smell anymore of his mental feces. This person spews rampant hate, and I think it is deeply disgusting. I don't want any part of it. If you all think he represents you and that I am the "problem" then - status quo. If you think there is a problem with him - then DO SOMETHING. Stand up and police your ranks GUNSLOT. Can you really let someone post shit "I have guns, full clips, waiting for illegals" and NOT REACT? Guys like that are the REASON we are all facing these issues - gun laws with no common sense.

It is time to get people talking and informed - not bragging about the guns this "guy" is going to confront other NORTH AMERICANS with. North AMERICANS. Not Chinese, or Al's Quesadilla shop, Iranians, Saudi Arabians - but NORTH AMERICANS. So, values check MEN. Who thinks that life should be preserved? Offering a gun, loaded with bullets engineered for maximum tissue damage aimed with lasers sounds a bit extreme to me, and I live of the most active border on the PLANET.

So GUNSLOT... Police yourselves and determine your own values. I don't think you all are the types that will sit back and let someone like Senor SamD speak for you. Everyone has the right to their opinion, but do you feel comfortable giving him the stage and lighting with which to preach hate and intolerance? I have had my fill - anyone ELSE?

There is a decency in most everyone alive - with few exceptions. We ALL lose out if that common humanity and basic understanding is not sought out, understood, or respected.
5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:04 AM

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You are so wrong about me. You know nothing. Have you read any other of my posts or are you just cherry picking? This was at a time when I and my were being personally attacked. You can see by the number of friends I have on here. You like the other Demos on here are trying to discredit me in the face of my peers. So far none of you have been able to do it. You come on here and read 1 or 2 posts and now you think you know everything. Unfortunately, you have gone off half cocked. When have I preached hate and intolerance. I think you are getting wrapped up in your own Liberal fuzzy logic. You can't shout me down. I only attack when I am being attacked. I will defend myself and my family. For a liberal I find it admirable and courageous that you are defending the Second Ammendment, yet you have no respect for MY First Ammendment Rights. I can't defend myself?
I think you need to take a step back chill out and revel in your election of The New President. That is what you fought so hard for, good battle you won.
If you will remember, there were 4 of you attacking me and my right to say anything about your Presidential choice.
Now you are lashing out at me, because I had the audacity to speak my mind in the face of your personal onslaught. I don't think too many in here will stand behind you on this one. Only 1 person in here would call me physcotic and that is sytasyn.
I think before you condemn me, you should read his piece on tying women & children on white hot metal sheets and watching them die. That sounds a little phsychotic to me and I called him on it. That is what started this. Sytasyn doesn't like to be called on anything. He is a very immature 23 yr old, school yard bully type. He is not very intelligent a corporal in the Marines and in Iraq. Whether by command or personal safety, he has never said what his job is in Iraq. He could be anything from infantry to a Latrine Orderley. Apparantley he is not proud of what he is doing over there.
I am sorry you got sucked into his hypebole an vendetta about me. Please read all the posts before condemning me.
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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:52 AM

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BobJet,
You might be correct n your assumption that there are a myriad of illiterates here on Gunslot. My avatar is clintlebo. Sytasyn has got my back on that one, and I thank him for the support. I find it interesting on most of the boards I have been a member of that people hide behind keyboards. I can vouch for samD's character only from what I have read on this board and through personal emails. I can only vouch for sytasyn from what I have read on this board and through personal emails. There is no inflection in typed words. There is minimal context. I have written my frustrations about the law and that I will do something irrational at least once in my life. I have probably even said words out loud. This does not make me psychotic nor a bad man. I believe samD and sytasyn are both good men. The argument they have is the argument they have.

I do not agree with your opinion about North Americans being equal. There is a major problem with illegals in America. Most of the Mexicans that I know do not want to assimilate into American culture. I opine that this is very bad for the "melting pot" that is America. I will not tell anyone what they can or can not do, I will point out constitutional rights.

I am a little confused with your post: I have included two quotes.

"I wanted to talk to people who I respect on this site about preserving the 2nd Amendment and get some ideas so that I might try and be active here locally in Ca. - ground zero for screwed up gun laws and the harbinger of things to come if sensible folks are not able to deliver good arguments to those who's minds are almost totally made up AGAINST guns."

And

"Guys like that are the REASON we are all facing these issues - gun laws with no common sense."

I am not calling you out, but if we are defending the 2nd Amendment, there can be no compromises. The only common sense I see with gun laws are what is written in the Bill of Rights. It is my opinion that every single amendment should be treated the same way. For some reason, the Second Amendment has been receiving more attacks. Could you please explain what you mean as common sense?

thank you

clint

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 11:00 AM

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Yeah Clint

Clint, I got your name right...Clint-LE-bo, so I expect the same from you...You for got a "Y". Not stasyn syn. You slipping Clint.

P.S. Thats all I got

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 1:22 PM

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I am changing it, never even noticed...sorry man

I am getting up in age, next thing you know I will be buying samD's walker and wearing his styrofoam hat!!

clint

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 11:16 AM

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ClintBO- well said. I

ClintBO- well said. I couldn't agree with you more.

As for this whole arugment, this isn't this first time this subject has come up. If you look back in past topics and threads, Sam has gotten into it with four or five diferent members of the site. After which, most have posted another topic about him in hopes that other members would speak out and "police" themselves. The problem is... whether you agree with him or not, he still has the right to be here and speak his mind. Like Sam said in his post, you can't defend the 2nd ammendment but deny him the 1st ammendment. I have agreed with him on a few things, and disagreed with him on a lot of other topics, its not going to change anything to cry over spilt milk. I acutally enjoy reading some of the arguments because I sometimes can relate to both sides, and they break up the metonymy of the site.

BobJet- just out of curiousity... you own firearms and would use them to protect yourself, right? I'm just wondering what the big deal with the "hydro-shocks" "laser" and "glock" are. Maybe you are just saying that he wouldn't be justified to use them in those circumstances. I myself an in no way psychotic or wanting to use my weapon in any situation, but i don't plan on firing warning shots if my life or my families lives were in danger. The whole Idea of using your weapon is that deadly force was completely necessary to defend ones life, therefore brandishing, warning shots, shooting to injure etc... will only cause problems. Besides, what if your "warning shot" hit an innocent bystander?

To conclude... can't we all just get along? If the answer is "NO... FUCKO" then atleast I know I'll enjoy reading some more extremist ranting and name calling that will make me chuckle.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 11:30 AM

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Yes, I want to get along. I have gotten along with you and many others in fact all the others except the 4 who have attacked me.. I hope I have not disturbed you and I hope you have been entertained.
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5 years 38 weeks ago, 1:42 PM

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I have read a lot here. I have not seen any hateful or irresponsible posts from samd. Its just written word. You could say the same for many of our posts, depending on how its interpreted.
We all agree with 2nd Amendment rights, self defense and firearm responsibility. Lets give samd the benefit of the doubt.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 2:30 PM

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Thank you for the support and kind words. Some people just go off track.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 3:59 PM

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At least Scott

we don't think you are a prick, because we know you are...

5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:15 PM

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Scott,

You are so far behind, that you think you are leading. You are a miasma.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:16 PM

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Scott

Everyone is just trying to have nice chats and then you come in and start stirring. Just let it die.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:31 PM

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Sorry

That talk is not amusing or funny. I can have those conversations with my friends. When they come out of you, directed at me, they are not funny. If you will just let it die for awhile, all will be well.
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5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:36 PM

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I don't care about entertaining you, ass. I laughed, therefore it was worth it.

P.S. Why should I let it die until you decide to use my name in a post again? Fuck you, You don't rule agenda...The LIBERALS DO!!!!!!!!!!
OH NO, I got got excited I wet your pretty pink little girl panties(yes, I said your).

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:41 PM

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See everyone

Scott can not just let it die and be over. Now why are you King? You just don't get good common human decency and decorum. So be it. Everybody, who gives a damn, say a prayer for in my eyes and mind he passed away today of mad cow disease... R.I.P Sytasyn-sin (Citizen Sin) 11/07/08. 3 days before the Marine Corps Birthday!

5 years 38 weeks ago, 4:46 PM

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So how many have "Passed Away" in your eyes now, Soon it will be a lonly place around here for you...everyone will be dead!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 5:00 PM

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You are the only one!

LOL

5 years 38 weeks ago, 5:11 PM

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Nope, now your lying, you said it about EBear too. Your memory must be slipping. Someone find grandpas Ginkgo Biloba.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 5:14 PM

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Ebear & I have emailed, talked like men and have buried the hatchet.
When one has knowledge, he does not need lies....

5 years 38 weeks ago, 5:23 PM

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Hahaha, Your so full of shit douchebox!
You act so high and might but see now of you own flaws. God I can't stand you...But I AM very glad you are such an easy target, I would hate to strain myself.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 5:53 PM

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enough

sytasyn, enough is enough. i'm sure i am not the only one who is tired of seeing in EVERY posting of EVERY topic your childish lashing of samd. exactly what do you do in the corp. anyway? i am a marine, i served my country and was injured doing it. if anyone that served with me would have acted the way you do the CO would have spanked your ass. man up and be a marine.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:12 PM

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SLAP!!!!!!!!!!

SLAP!!!!!!!!!!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 7:37 PM

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Thank you brother. I too am a Veteran. I am through with his childish behavior. RIP.
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5 years 38 weeks ago, 8:48 PM

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um, no

Freedom...fuck you...oh now, someone else mad...oh well
You don't like it, don't read it. I only read samD's post when I need to make fun of someone.
By the way, I am a 0621 with 1/1. Marines talk shit allot, where have you been.
Stop acting like the "Sissy New Corp Attitude" and grow a pair. Can't take or don't like it...shit happens.
Now what does you being injured ave to do with anything? Did you throw it in there so you could get sympathy credit? I am sorry you got hurt, truly am(worst thing in the world to see is your boys go down, I know) This is the last post I am righting to you and NO i will now stop shitting on SamD, fuck him.
He talks shit and gets told by many people he is a dick and they can't stand him, they give examples and it goes on with a bunch(gang) of people telling him he is annoying and a P.O.S. so people come to his defense. He tried it with me asking people to come forward to kick me off the site(tool) and the only one that showed up was Snake, that kid is simple and we all know he is looking for a friend. I mess with him so he runs to daddy Samuels lap to get stroked. I have no doubt that there are three people that would join him right now but still...I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. Fuck him and all the shit that spews from his mouth. I don't want to hear from you again Freedom, this ain't for you so don't read it! I would hate for your feelings to get hurt.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 8:59 PM

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sytasyn_syn? you need me to slap someone for you?

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:07 PM

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( . )( . )

Ha! Naw man, I appreciate it. But I really need you to put down the PimpHand!!!! That thing is DANGEROUS!!!!!! I once heard you slapped the Jones family. Not even with 5 slaps, just one legendary slap that was felt through the WHOLE family.
Once again I say
heheheh ( . )( . ) <----Boobs!!!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:03 PM

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This is typical SA. Trying to shout you down. This miscreant hates me because I have put him in his place so many times. This person loves to tell lies and spread untruths, some fabricated in his mind. This is the President of this site. Spews specious remarks and tries to get everybody scared of him. Well real men don't run from boys in a man's clothes. I have many friends on here and am very comfortable. Read the posts and see who spews the shit and is a nut job. This is Marvin & Quintons President and head moderator. I think it high time they rein this physco in, before he runs everybody off. Don;t let him get to you, he is just a ghost anyway...

5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:11 PM

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SLAP!!!!!!!!!!

SLAP!!!!!!!!!!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:16 PM

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LOL. 41?

5 years 38 weeks ago, 9:15 PM

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I think that said it all!!

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 10:26 PM

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mad

oh i'm not mad. and no you don't scare me. you ask where have i been? well, when you were still pissin your diapers, i took round in the knee from an Iraqi AK while defending your right to be a free American. i think we all see who hass the "sissy new corp attitude". i served with the 3/5 MEB. was injured once i served with the SRIG. and by the way, it was an honor defending you.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 10:11 AM

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Congrats, nothing you said was combative....touche'....I'm sorry, I have nothing for you Freedom...Still hate SamD though!

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Yall quit swaping spit and lets talk about the price of guns. Have they started going up since Obama? Here in Texas they are flying off the shelves.

5 years 38 weeks ago, 10:56 AM

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The price has gone up but not due to his "direct" doing. People are buying them before they are "banned"! This is demand...When this skyrockets, companies WILL raise the price of that product. Just because allot of gun owners are honorable doesn't mean companies are!! But I will say Obama had an indirect affect of the gun prices going up but the "blame" should be put on the buyers.

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5 years 38 weeks ago, 12:25 PM

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Question:
how is the blame on the innocent buyers? we just want some more guns, and should be able to buy them at the same price as we have for the past decade!
I realize their is a surge of first time buyers, and "panic" which allows for the price inflation.... but shouldn't the blame really be on the greedy corporations trying to take advantage of the situation (i realize they are in business to turn a profit, not for the people, but still... GIVE ME A FRICKIN BREAK HERE!), or better yet shouldn't the blame be on sole individual who is causing this widespread fear because of his political beliefs and the power(along with congress)to change laws and pass bans. There would be no "panic", buyer surge, or price inflation if HE wasn't going to change the way firearms can be purchased. I'm not trying to spew hate, just pointing out the fact that the buyers are just purchasing in mass because they HAVE to if they want to own certain weapons in the next 10 yrs.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 2:40 PM

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Answer:
Now when I say the "blame" is on the consumer, know that I am in no way saying the consumers are doing anything wrong. I was simply stating that Obama alone is not the cause of rising prices! If Obama won and that was that, Prices would be normal right now. However even if we took Obama out of the picture and people started buying all these guns, (for some other reason which is not important in this scenario) would the prices still not rise? So I misused my words and I apologize! The consumers are not "to blame" But they are just the cause to the effect with Obama being the catalyst. Did that make sense? I hope it did because it almost confused me when I reread it.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 12:30 PM

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prices

figure it this way,most gun shops sell most of their guns before hunting season so the rest of the year sales are slower,so when a situation arises like this one(election)these money grubbers mark up the inventory.i know of 2 shops that lowered prices to 20 dollars over cost and have basically sold out their inventories.their thoughts were quantity can make a profit too!so blame shop owners not the manufacturers

5 years 37 weeks ago, 9:49 PM

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I just stopped by to get my point. Thanks

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 9:51 PM

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lol

you crazyass mfer

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 9:55 PM

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OH I see you got your point. and I got me another one. tks ebear.

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 9:58 PM

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hey

can we trade these points in for a choo choo calender?

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 9:59 PM

Crusading Knight

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Maybe, I am going to try.

It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.- Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)
5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:02 PM

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ok

by the way.......whats this topic about?

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5 years 37 weeks ago, 10:02 PM

Crusading Knight

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good night to all

thought I would say good night and get another point. Yup I'm gettin the hang of this. pretty soon I'll have reached Obama Rank.

It is curious that physical courage should be so common in the world and moral courage so rare.- Mark Twain (1835 - 1910)

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