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3 years 39 weeks ago, 1:19 PM

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Any body know where I can get a scope mount that will fit a Mosin-Nagant that does not require drilling and tapping or the use of a long-relief scope? I have seen a bunch of videos on Youtube about sporterizing a Mosin, but most of them use long eye relief scopes. we can get a new bolt body for about $20, with a turned down bolt. We want to put a scope on it but not drill through the factory stampings on the barrel.
Any information would be appreciated. I need to know where to look, anyway.

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3 years 39 weeks ago, 11:42 PM

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I tried to do the same thing a few years ago but options were pretty limited unless I was willing to drill new mounts. I talked to a gunsmith about the mounting system that replaces the rear sight but didn't think it would be very stable. Please share any info you find.

3 years 39 weeks ago, 11:23 AM

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Re: Scopes...

umf, will do. There is one video on YouTube that shows the guy taking the rear sight off and leaving the wedge mount on, he says you can use a weaver-style clamp to mount a rail that steps up and over the top of the barrel, eliminating the need to drill holes in the markings.
Problem is, every type of similar mount I have found mounts on a picatinny rail or an AR carry handle. And I'm afraid something like that wouldn't hold zero well or for long. Eventually some machinist will patent something that is stable, though that just does not help now. We plan to shoot the rifle in a competition this spring and would like it set up before then.
Will post what I figure out on this thread.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 11:45 PM

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Hey CWY - I got one of those inexpensive picatinny mounts that goes on the stock rear sight. Then I got an NC Star 3-7x 32 scope for about $40.00. The thing with the Mosins is the long eye relief required. The NC Star was the only one I found in the price range I wanted to stay in. Took it out last Thursday, had it pretty much spot on at 200 yds.after 20 rounds. The ATI stock & shoulder pad I have really helps tone down the mule-like kick of the 54R as well. Mine's now a pretty fun old bolt action rifle, that I could hunt with if I needed to. Good luck with yours!

3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:25 PM

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umf: More info!

Go on down the thread and see my post for Mosin stuff, some of the mounts look really good. There is one on tickbitesupply.com thats long enough you might not need a long-relief scope.

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 12:31 AM

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Give this place a look

http://tickbitesupply.com/mos.html

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:09 AM

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I know they make some that do replace the rear sight and mount as a scout scope. I cannot remember the manufacturer at the moment though

3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:21 PM

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UPDATE!

Okay, for a mount we tried the NCStar scout scope mount and some of the screw holes stripped out on it. (these are TINY screws)
Found one on rocksolidind.com thats a little expensive but very solid. Found several places to find the turned-down bolt, some are welded on, some screw on, but we found several places to get re-man surplus ready made. Cheapest so far is buymilsurp.com, but rocksolid has a fair deal.
We put an ATI composite stock on it, re-blued it, ordered the NCStar scope, and are gonna try to use the rail that the screws stripped out on.
Already looks like a different rifle!

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 3:30 PM

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Wheeler Engineering FAT (Firearm Accurizing Torque) Torque Wrench Screwdriver $55.99 from Midway
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct/?productnumber=718023

helps keep stripping down and also ensures stuff is as tight as it should be..

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3 years 38 weeks ago, 10:16 AM

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ISD: Thanks, already got one. Problem is, the screws are SO small, and the aluminum of the rail is so soft, it stripped before it was even tight!
No worries though, we put a machine screw THROUGH the rail, with a nut and washers, and it seems to be doing great!
Though, when I do mine, I think I will use the one that mounts around the receiver. I like the looks of it better, it seems a lot more solid, and I wont have to use a long-relief scope, which would limit the power options of the scope.
Thanks for all the great ideas, though! I really like this forum, and intend to spend as much time as possible on here.

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3 years 35 weeks ago, 2:27 PM

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not sure how to mount over the reciever without drilling,but if you just dont want to drill and tap the top of the reciever you can use an original style qd mount from kalinkaoptics.com they sell all kinds of optics and mounts for russian rifles.i have one for my sks that ive been 2 lazy 2 mount.it does require drilling and taping,but its done on the side of the reciever,and then you can keep your iron sight if you want.

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3 years 34 weeks ago, 4:05 PM

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UPDATE!

Hello!
Just an update on our Mosin project. We ordered the NC Star picatinny rail and the $40 scope, the mount would NOT hold zero, so we removed the rear factory sight mount. I didn't want to but the rifle belongs to my roomie so it was his decision. Went to Dick's and got a set of rings to fit the scope.
It is now a tack-driver, and it looks NOTHING like it used to! Waiting on the bent-bolt to get here, next item will be a Timney adjustable trigger!
Thanks for all the help! Now, to get one for me to play with! I think I will get the permanent scope mount that bolts to the receiver, that way I can put a really good scope on it.

Will keep you all updated on that project as it comes along.

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3 years 32 weeks ago, 12:09 PM

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Hello, all!
Just wanted to let all of you know, we got my roomies' 91/30 done!
Here is what we did:
- Disassembled and re-blued.
- Shaved off factory front sight
- Installed ATI synthetic stock
- Removed rear sight and install NC STAR Scout scope with 1" .22 rings (at first we tried the NC STAR rail that mounts on the rear sight frame, but it would not hold zero)
- Installed Timney trigger group because the original had a 'surprise' release (this required much inletting of the stock but it was WAY worth the effort)

Total cost including rifle: $405.00 not counting the NC Star mount we wound up not using.

The scope came from CombatHunting.com for around $50
The rings were $15 from Dick's
The stock we got from CombatHunting.com for $100, but Midway sells it too. The black one is $70 but we got the camo one.
The Timney trigger was around $100 and MAKES THIS RIFLE!!!! HIGHLY recommend it!

Happy Shooting!

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